10 Songs that Taught Me Bass (Easy to Effin’ Hard)

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Honestly, the first full song for bass I learned was “Turbo Lover” by Judas Priest. And it was something so trivial as driving a semi-truck late at night, listening to it on the radio and thinking, “Yeah, I could probably play that.”

Learning the tabs really wasn’t an issue.

Ian Hill, the bassist for Judas Priest, more than a few songs he has done involve a lot of eighth-note chugging. (“Breaking The Law”) For Turbo Lover, the first two minutes is nothing but open E eighth-note chugging. But you have some slides, some basic string crossing, and some whole notes as well.

It also forces you to lock into the drummer on the eighth note chugging as well.

It is a good beginners rock bass song. Going by the tab, I mostly got it in about 3-4 hours. Still got to post a cover on it here. I still have to keep myself leaning into my plucking on the second verse, because that’s when the song really takes off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ietU5yUJ7zk

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Great post and video @JoshFossgreen…inspirational! Quick Question - Not to endorse any firm, but what flat wounds did you have on that first P-Bass?

Now to the “inspriational” end, let me go get off my arse and grab my bass!

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One of my favorite all-time Judas Priest songs @Sp33dSnakr. Thanks for posting and making us think about it. I gotta learn it now.

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First song : Fire by Jimi Hendrix

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These are them!

They’re getting on in years now, been on there almost as long as I’ve had the bass. Maybe 2013? So they’ve good some good funk on 'em now. :wink:

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Nice. Love them on a P-Bass and I put them on my J-Bass too. I went with the 760FS|La Bella Deep Talk’n which is what my online music store had. So far so good.

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Thanks to @JoshFossgreen (and noob Josh) Walking on the moon (incomplete, for now), complete first song The bed’s too big without you. Yes I like da Police.

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Do you have any advice for anyone in the predicament of knowing riffs but no whole songs? It feels like a really shameful secret, but I’d love to fix this.

I’ve completed a certain fantastic thing called B2B and have been working (painfully slowly) through Ed Freidland’s Bass Method book 1 but I still don’t know where, when and how to start learning songs. I’m finding so many barriers:

  1. Trying to find songs that are a balance of being motivating but not too challenging
  2. When sightreading or using hybrid tab, not being able to “reproduce” common rhythm elements (rests, syncopation, eight notes) at speed (I can understand them theory wise, but struggle putting it into action) - leads to it taking weeks just to learn a small riff. I’d tried Ed Friedland’s “Easy (lies) Pop Basslines” that goes with the Method Book but after spending hours on the same song (and needing hours more) it was driving me mad and I was sick of hearing it!
  3. Fingering - knowing when to switch between Simandl, one-finger-pet-fret plus knowing which fingers to shift on when using Simandl (1, 2 or 4)
  4. Feeling pressured to “know” what I’m playing (e.g. understanding all the rhythms) and playing precisely to be a “good bassist” rather than “winging it” roughly by ear. I do think I’ve had it drilled into me by teachers that I “have to” sightread and until I can I shouldn’t play!
  5. Just in general not knowing the logistics of “how” to learn - how should you approach a song? Is it best to use paper tabs, or apps? How long should it take before playing along a full speed and how do you avoid burnout with the repetition?
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Hopefully Josh will answer, but what I would recommend is to abandon the idea of needing to perfect sight-reading for now, in terms of learning songs. Pick some shorter songs, and use the tabs or sheet music to memorize sections of it, and make notes of the sections themselves.

Most songs are structured, so these notes would look something like this for a hypothetical song:

Intro bars x4
Verse bars x12
chorus bars x8
Verse bars x12
chorus bars x8
Verse bars x12
Outro x12

Most songs will only have a few different types of patterns to learn, each a few measures long, repeated for each song section. So you can learn those from the tabs, and just keep notes for the song structure.

I’ve played several instruments over the years and while I can read music, I have never been able to sight read at speed on any of them, and just use sheet music to learn the songs initially and then as a roadmap of when to change patterns I have learned. Probably frowned upon, but it worked for me.

You’re not a computer that gets programmed to read sheet music as an exact reproduction of a song. Sheet music is a tool for you to be able to reproduce a song efficiently by what ever means works for you. Don’t be forced in to feeling you need to sight read perfectly now to be able to learn songs with sheet music or tabs.

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@Rich.B have you tried the song pack that is included with the B2B course? Fifty songs, with tabs, grouped into three difficulty categories. You can play back the tabs, so you can hear how it’s supposed to sound, and you can slow down the tempo while you’re practicing. Highly recommended!

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@Rich.B, In addition to what @howard and @Mike_NL said above, I’d just think of what my favorite songs are (maybe ones I know the riffs to?), look up the tabs, and go from there.

YouTube has lots of cover videos with tabs, but they can be tricky. . . Between knowing how the songs should sound and the tabs, you can work it out. If a cover does not have a tab, try to study what frets the bassist is playing in the video.

Good luck to you in your efforts . . . :slight_smile:

Cheers
Joe

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Don’t even worry about it, it comes with time. And sight reading is utter nonsense (as in having to to play). Yes it is guitar, but this guy can’t sight read:

Nor can I. I have an entire album out and have like 1,000 original riffs. I also started not knowing full songs, still don’t know many that aren’t mine unless we do a cover. Play, learn your scales, keep learning song fragments you like (as in don’t stop doing that just because it isn’t full songs) play to drum tracks, and try to make your own bass riffs.

Full songs that tend to be easy though, Foo Fighters, CCR, AC/DC, Nirvana. I learned that if you tend to key in on the singer, they are the ones who queue you the changes are about to happen (if you lose count).

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That’s another good point, @kerushlow . . . :+1:

You make a lot of them! :wink:

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Thank you! Most of what I share is learned through experience and it’s stuff that would have been nice to know going into it. That said GOING INTO IT with reckless abandon was also HOW I learned most that I have. I can’t express enough how valuable just DOING is. And what is the worst that will happen? Your song will suck? You play some wrong notes? It’s inconsequential!

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Another Brilliant Video There @JoshFossgreen

As I watched, thinking I would be able to tackle the medium, not even close. I am able to “play” the notes but am I really playing?? I do appreciate the casual perspective regarding the solo action. Meaning, you don’t have to be busy on the fretboard with a solo face in order to play a solo. Thanx For That

First Song: Technically, haven’t learned a full song!! Yet. But my first riff was BoB Marley’s Three Little Birds. Trying not to worry about every little thing, Don’t Worry

Be Well All,
Cheers

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There was great advice up above from lots of folks, and there’s great stuff to take away from all of it.
I just wanted to chime in with a “yeah, me too.”

When I started bass, I captured riffs and parts, and never learned songs all the way through… except for Stone Temple Pilots “Plush” - that one got me through.

I never played songs all the way through until I was in bands.

For me, it was boring. I didn’t have the feeling of playing along with the song, playing background rhythm parts while there were solos and singing and cool guitar riffs was really boring to me.
I love it live (and loved it live when I was playing) because there was a drummer and a band, and everything made sense in context, and I could sense the importance and connection of what I was doing. But backing things up in my room at home was a struggle.
So - no shameful secrets!

My recommendation would be… play with real people. (dammit, Covid!)

If you can’t do that, just enjoy learning riffs. Build enough riffs and parts, and you’ll have a song.

For your points 3-5: If you want to play a song, I’d say forget everything about what you think a bassist should know. You don’t need any theory, you don’t need to have a named fingering technique to apply, and there’s no way to learn other than the way that you can do it successfully.

It sounds like you’re doubting yourself more than anything.
The only thing that you need to play bass is the ability to make the right sound at the right time. ‘How’ you do that is up to you. It’s only helpful if it moves you forward.
If it’s paralyzing, forget the technique, and just get in there and make the sounds any way you can.
Sound first - every thing else a distant second.

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And Gio here is a great bassist.

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Adding above, Gio makes an excellent point. Making the sound happen is the most important thing, HOW you do it is secondary. To drive this point home, look at Rick Allen, the drummer for Def Leppard. Famously has one arm, but still plays in a high profile Rock Band. It’s ACTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE for him to use “proper technique”. He had to find a way to still get the sounds on his drum set even down a primary limb. Listen to some Def Leppard. Do your ears tell you the drummer isn’t using proper technique?

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This is me in a nutshell!! While I try to convince myself I made my peace with it, it really still bugs me (mostly because you read everywhere that it is all about learning songs)… but, if even Gio had this experience, we can all learn to accept it as part of our musical maturation process :smile:

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