B2B progress & questions

You’re supposed to make mistakes, you will always make mistakes
The way that I did it, I’d move on only after I was satisfied with how I did the fast work out… of course eventually that ended and I had to eat some humble pie and move on before that.
There’s no time of practice that can predict/guarantee success, you have to figure out how much is right for you, and some lessons will come easier than others for whatever reason
The “right” way to this imo is practice as much as you can as long as you’re enjoying it, that’s it, you can create some well structured schedule or just noodle around or play songs you like, none of it really matters as long as you’re doing with the bass what you feel good doing it
Most of us here have no intention of being professional musicians, so don’t turn it into a chore
Have fun, bass is fun


It is interesting where we trip up. I got to where Billie Jean was no issue but now even years after finishing the course I can’t do the fast disco octaves lesson at full speed :rofl:

Mostly this is because something about the octave shape chugging like that gives me some hand pain for an unknown reason. Just need to put time in to it someday I guess.


I think I’m saying what everyone is saying, hopefully with an added nugget or two.

On mistakes: So, this is actually how humans learn. Contrary to the educational system you & I came up in, getting it right the first time doesn’t reveal how or why you got it right. Getting it wrong kicks in the critical thinking do-dads in your brain and then you compare, and then you learn, then you know, then you boogie-woogie.

On not looking: I hope others will correct me on this:: Outside of being a classical musician in an orchestra or a quartet I can’t think of a real need to not look at the fretboard. I mean knowing the fretboard to the point where you don’t have to look would be awesome, of course. But I’d put a couple a dozen other milestones on the list before that, like locking in with a drummer, learning every bass line on all <insert favorite artist here>'s albums, jamming with friends, not effing up a 12 bar blues song that’s longer that 3 minutes, being funky as $h1t … okay, I’ll stop now.

Anyway, you get the point. What you described is just the learning process and it sounds like you are doing well. I printed out the B2B schedule pdf and circle the lessons I didn’t “nail” or want to refer back to (like Billie Jean and Midnight Hour) because they are fun.

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Agree. I do it so I can look away here and there and not have to stop playing and stand there like a dope. :upside_down_face:


It’s interesting how we are wired differently, I’m just the opposite, I got the disco octaves down with ease, but the last time that I tried Billie after finishing the course I couldn’t do the fast at all still … my left pinky and ring fingers can’t agree on what to do, who goes first, going up or down, they end up tangled, so I just left it at that and will try again when I get to her in the 50 songs challenge


I despise disco octaves. Lol


Love the reference to Lost In Space. :slightly_smiling_face:
Funny how some sayings stick in your head.

I did not think you were that old :rofl:


In my head and heart, I’m 22!

When it comes to the number of trips I’ve made around the sun, there are quite a few dozen more than that.


I started last year and did really well on BJ. Thought that if I was able to do BJ at full tempo from the get-go, everything else would be easy. Then I got COVID and did not play for about 2-3 months. Brain fog from COVID kicked my ass. I still deal with it today. BUT, I reapplied myself to doing at least one lesson a day to get through the course, bought a bunch of decent equipment to motivate me and just had my ass kicked by “Red Clay” and “Under the Bridge”. But it was only the full tempo “Red Clay” and the syncopation on “Under the Bridge”. I did get through the medium work-outs on both and am moving on. I will never be a Les Claypool or Geddy Lee. They been playing for decades. My realistic goal is to continue to get better by small amounts over time and enjoy myself when I do. I relish the small improvements I have made to this point and know that if I keep chugging along, I will one day be decent enough. Maybe not great, but would be able to play along at a jam or something without being a total trainwreck. I am 59 years old and am having a great time even just being able to sit and play. It winds me down from my day, all problems disappear for the time I am playing. And when I nail a song that my new little wife recognizes, it makes me feel proud of myself.


So I’ll just say this, Billie Jean had me beat for a long time. I practiced it daily for months. Finally one Fast it clicked.

The double pluck disco octaves? Same thing. I really did spend 5-10 minutes a day on just that, fur months.

The slap version of rollercoaster? That still trips me up.

I still do all of these in my daily warm-up.