I currently have the Rumble 100. Not sure that I’d want to go with another combo when I upgrade.
Does the Rumble 500 have the same issue as the 100 of the DI coming after the volume in the signal chain? (Hope I’m saying that right)
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Maybe that’s the way I’ll go. A friend of mine had an amp with a 1x15 cab and a 2x10 cab. The 2x10 sounded great by itself, and they sounded even better together.
He’d just use the 2x10 when he didn’t need the 1x15 to save on his back.
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That combination gives you some options to use them separately or combined. A 210 cab won’t give you the round bottom end that a 115 will but combined they can sound awesome. It’s a fairly common rig for pro bassists or a 410 with a 115. Now you’re talking massive sound and more watts to power all of that.
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Now that I’ve been thinking about it more, I think the amps and cabs he had were Eden.
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Eden makes a good product. I like the sound of their amps.
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I’m not a fan of that term at all. It’s Master of none.
I’m in the camp of neutrality. I want my bass(es)to sound like my bass and not other companies signature tone.
That’s the reason why I’m flying Genzler’s flag. They are neutral amp. I’m sure @soulman feel the same way about his Genzler. If I were ever add a brand it would be A Reference Series by Bergantino. I’ll be taking @booker_t Bergantino system for a spin the next time I see him
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Oh yeah baby! Love that 212 NXT Neo. And the 800D
You know it just hit me, both your amp and cap the founder has the same first name. James/ Jim. 
close enough.
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What was your impression?
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I like the built in mixer on the JBL and it sounds nice. It would be handy when I’ve got 2 separate signal chains (my daughters are getting me either a Helix or an Ampero stomp) and can have 2 basses ready to go in a moments notice. My ultimate goal though is to get better and find folks to play with, so I’d rather buy once and have an amp that I can lug to rehearsals and plug in an extension cab if I need to down the road. As it is, that PA can’t compare in straight up volume, 2X10 vs 1X10. They’re both right around the same weight. I’m already planning on getting a small Yamaha mixing board w/ a built in DAI after the holidays. I promised my wife any GAS related purchases will either be gifts from the girls or from her till then.
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Yup. Transparent with little to no baked in tone or coloration is spelled G E N Z L E R.
As a guitarist as well I know that most look for amps that are often called “pedal friendly” in that they accept various pedals well and tend to not overly influence their tone. The Holy Grail of all OD pedals Klon is loved for it’s reputed total transparency which others have been trying to emulate with their own Klone Klones.
IME it’s actually rare for any musical gear innovator to not have a specific tonality in mine for their product. Most bass rigs do. Ampeg for instance has a very popular baked in tonality that’s typically been highly valued by many. But times have changed and some builders are going in another direction. Genzler is one of them.
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Yeah I am definitely on the other side of this opinion. A transparent amp or preamp is a solid definition of the last thing I would want in one. I value them almost entirely for their tone coloration and would just buy a powered PA speaker if I wanted a transparent boost.
Fender amps, liked by most here, have a ton of tone coloring going on with a prominent mid scoop. Ampeg and G-K have their respective tones as well. Darkglass famously so, etc etc.
For me the amp/preamp has to bring something to the table tonally or I am completely disinterested.
Definitely one of those cases where it’s great to celebrate differences. Genzlers, Bergantinos, and so on are all beautiful amps and some pinnacle quality stuff there, I get why others like them. For me, they are not the direction I would go; my metric for selecting preamps was how unique and interesting their tonal qualities were.
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Another superb bass cab builder. Begantino along with Baer and Epifani make some really great high end cabs.
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Which JBL EON did you test?
I guess one of the JBL EON One’s? Those have only an 8" speaker…
I have the JBL EON 710 (10" speaker). No built-in mixer, but it sounds absolutely great and neutral (cause of the DSP).
It’s more of a HIFI sound, not a stuffy cab sound., so I can play anything (including background sounds) through it.
I find it very loud as is, but I just use it for sofa playing. Also I don’t miss any bass, but this might be cause neighbour complaines already echo in my mind, when I turn up the volume/bass…
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I think the basic thought behind the transparency is much like it is for some guitar amps only with bass amps it’s to be more useful as a platform for all of the various preamps and overdrive units that have become so popular of late.
Those can very easily convert the amp to a very different tonality based on the voicing of that particular unit. It’s somewhat like adding a second channel to the amp much like I do by using a Joyo American Sound.
For example. My Blues Cube 60 is a Fender Tweed voiced amp. I can easily make it sound more like a mid '60s Blackface Fender just by setting that pedal up for that tonality and kicking it into play. It’s just like having an added channel.
Genzler just produced the Kinetix amp which has a tube front end. It’s become very popular. But one could easily selection a different tube driven preamp and use it with one of the Magellan heads to produce somewhat the same thing.
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At which point a PA system or FRFR speakers and a cabsim are definitely worth considering.
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Holy shit!
I had no idea they were so cheap now!!
I paid top dollar for mine a-way back when.
Still, love 'em.
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Ok so obviously they’re super heavy right?
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Oh, god yes.
We’re talking peak 1990’s bass-gear-is-better-if-it’s-heavier heavy.
Each one is 90lbs.
Now, to find some nice steel flight cases for them…
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You just need to cast them in reinforced concrete 
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