Definition of "Bright"

[Koldunya]

considering that Korg sells it in their own Legacy Collection, that would be correct

No Korg emulations from Arturia

[howard]

Yes, The two big missing '80s-'90s synths still not in V Collection are the Korg M1 and the Roland D-50. Each because their respective company is making bank off their own versions.

[John_E]

I played with the demo of the Stage 73, its great for sure.
But can’t spend more on something that is 3rd on my list to learn with zero time.
Sax is now back with a vengence so that and bass have me tapped sadly.
Damn work.

[howard]

@John_E

But can’t spend more on something that is 3rd on my list to learn with zero time.

I can understand that. I’d say just grab Analog Lab then, if you don’t already have it. It can often be had for free (though usually with gear). It will have all the Stage-73 presets in it.

[Koldunya]

@John_E

I played with the demo of the Stage 73, its great for sure. But can’t spend more on something that is 3rd on my list to learn with zero time.

Here’s a $20 Rhodes 73 Mark 1 (I think. it says seventy three on the side)

Sanjay's Rhodes (Full version)

Free version:

Sanjay's Rhodes Dream (FREE)

Lite $5 version:

Sanjay's Rhodes (Lite Version)

I actually got the full one for $10 at some point on a sale. It sounds good to me, and the sfz version just drops directly in Bitwig which I liked at the time.

I’m pretty sure this is the suitcase version of the stage 73 and can go on sale for $20-30:

Suit73 V2

I can’t remember if the sales are from Sampleson’s newsletter or not.

And finally, a free Rhodes Mark 1 73 for Decent Sampler:
https://www.pianobook.co.uk/packs/matts-fender-rhodes/

[sshoihet]

@PamPurrs

@sully provided a very good technical answer. My question was more how one might describe the sound without the use of an EQ instrument. I still favor the “piano-like” description.

Open strings are brighter and the further you fret up the neck, the darker the timbre gets. Compare the 15th fret of the E string to an open G string. The piano has additional overtones called “partials” which make it sound bright; round wound strings generate more harmonic overtones vs a similar flat wound string.

Harmonic series (music)

[itsratso]

i prefer “zingy”

[howard]

@sshoihet

round wound strings generate more harmonic overtones vs a similar flat wound string.

This is the biggest reason rounds not only sound brighter, but less “dead” overall than flats. And while you can EQ away much of the brightness of rounds and be left with a nice rich thump, you can’t as easily add harmonics to flats that aren’t there in the first place.

(You actually can, via things like overdrive and fuzz, but that’s a different discussion).

[PamPurrs]

@itsratso

i prefer “zingy”

Zingy is a good adjective

[howard]

@sshoihet

The piano has additional overtones called “partials”

There’s a lot of interesting work that has been done here in synthesis, too. There’s a whole class of Additive Synthesis that builds complex sounds up out of sine partials. You can also do this with FM Synthesis but usually FM is just what it says on the box - using one wave to modulate another wave.

[itsratso]

its just how they sound to me. rounds zingy flats thumpy

[howard]

@itsratso

its just how they sound to me. rounds zingy flats thumpy

I like zingy. Definitely better than twangy anyway

[itsratso]

yes. twangy is hillbilly zingy

[sshoihet]

@howard

There’s a lot of interesting work that has been done here in synthesis, too. There’s a whole class of Additive Synthesis that builds complex sounds up out of sine partials. You can also do this with FM Synthesis but usually FM is just what it says on the box - using one wave to modulate another wave.

Pianoteq is pretty cool, so many ways to manipulate a sound.

Is This The BEST Piano Plugin? 🎹 | Pianoteq 7 Review

[PamPurrs]

So you’re saying James Jamerson and all those other great bassists who made a career playing flats are hillbillies?

I like the thump of flats for certain genres of music. Rounds have their place, and so do flats, they each offer a different type of tone. I’ve recorded a lot of covers of contemporary rock songs with flats and haven’t heard anyone complain about it.

[itsratso]

nah i mean the word twangy. i actually love flats and put those, what are those ridiculously overpriced strings, the thomastiks on my hollow body ibanez. i figured might as well seeing as how i plan on never changing them again.

[PamPurrs]

@itsratso

what are those ridiculously overpriced strings, the thomastiks

Yes, definitely overpriced IMO

[sshoihet]

@PamPurrs

So you’re saying James Jamerson and all those other great bassists who made a career playing flats are hillbillies?

Well he didn’t have many options, there were only flat wound strings when he started playing electric bass. Later on in his playing career his popularity waned because he resisted switching to rounds and struggled to modernize his sound.

[itsratso]

if one ever breaks ima gonna be pissed

[Koldunya]

Now I am wondering how Darkglass’ harmonic booster sounds with flats…

@sshoihet

Pianoteq is pretty cool, so many ways to manipulate a sound.

I like physical modeling synthesizers, and have more than a few in software. I can’t bring myself to get hardware physical modelers due to cost and lack of availability. Arturia’s Piano V, a Pianoteq competitor. AAS Chromaphone, I do Karplus-Strong string synthesis on Massive X, Bitwig’s modular The Grid, etc. My OP-1 has a string synth engine that’s one of my favorites. Anyway XD

@howard

Additive Synthesis

Benn Jordan has an interesting video where he “steals a melodica’s soul” via additive synthesis and gets into the maths behind it. I have a K5000S in the closet I want room for; possibly the greatest hardware additive synth of all time. I love it to pieces and want to play it again…

@itsratso

i prefer “zingy”

Zingy catches me on the higher strings, it’s a fine line between zingy and “Oh god, stahp, it’s awful, kill it with fire”