Yep!
The live version boots & works. It fails when installing. It’s an issue with Grub, apparently.
Yeah - the universe tells me that it’s a character test. Giving up is never an option!
But also it tells me that all those LINUX fanboys are wrong: LINUX is not the daily driver your your grannies PC (I have a very religious discussion about this in another forum. I don’t know what’s worse: Apple fanboys or LINUX fanboys??!?)
I still think it could be. Most people use the web and that’s basically it. They might touch an office program once in awhile. The average user also aren’t installing their own OS, if most people actually bought a Linux machine with Linux pre-installed, they’d be absolutely fine. Just click the internet button and go.
/fanboy
Probably LINUX 
It’s a fine OS for lots of things, especially if you like to do things the hard way… but there’s a lot of stuff that I do that makes it impractical. I used it mostly on Rpi but now they’re so expensive I can just buy an N100 mini PC for the same price. I actually was considering LINUX for a project because it’s just easier to run that than to have to screw around with windows IoT enterprise licensing. I can run a local version of Llama if I need an LLM for something. I think it needs about 1/2 the RAM of a windows machine too which is a more significant consideration right now too.
Easy. LINUX fanboys. They live in another dimension. At least the Apple fanboys live in the same dimension as Windoze users, they’re just more special.
True … but if installation is an issue, than it’s likely that operations is also an issue.
LINUX fanboys tend to forget that administration or exception handling is a drag on LINUX.
Here, Windows is much better. Hell, even MacOS is better!
I have used it a lot too. On servers, IoT, Raspi stuff, iTV boxes, signage etc.
But this project is about usability for “normal” users … like my girlfriend. She’s bright and a fast learner. But she does not want to bother with overhead. And she’s right!
This project is perfect, when she can install it all - no questions asked. Like with Windows and Office.,..
Apple fanbois are much less insufferable now than they were in the 90s 
and apple products are significantly more practical now since the vast majority of mainstream applications are available on iOS/macOS. I dislike macOS but there’s not much that i can’t do on it now and some of their products like the macbook air are very good and a better value than a comparable windows machine.
Both annoying as hell 
This is true. There’s a lot of households that run Linux up for the desktop, but I guarantee you every single one of those households has a dadmin that figures out the problems when they arise and the command line is his favorite place to be lol.
The honest truth is that I want to love Linux but it’s so fucking unlovable.
Yes! I fact, I wish I could install Windows (only) on one of those M4 machines. Like in the old days…
I haven’t used ubuntu lately but the last time i installed it, i had no problems and it was easy enough to use it for web browsing, email and open office type stuff.
Reminds me of that one b#tch girlfriend I had
Yeah - same here (kind of).
On my Dell Optiplexes it went smoothly.
But it needs to run on all my (ASUS) Laptops too…
This whole discussion would not have happened, if LINUX were as simple as Windows…
Until windows breaks stuff with every update like it does on my old alienware laptop
I never have sigificant issues with Windows, not within the last 10-15 years.
We have 3 laptops and two main servers here, as well as three “experimental” PCs and two or three spare “Schrödinger’s” machines.
All running Windows (except the experimental devices, that change OS on a regular basis, but still mainly Windows).
That’s another reason, why this initial test is so important. Solving issues on one machine is doable. Solving issues on several machines is hell…
If this milestone fails (and it looks like that), we will remain on Windows. For a while…
It’s funny, i stuck with windows phone until the bitter end when MS bought Nokia’s devices and services and then killed it off. 
You can check out something like NTlite. I guess it allows you to strip all shit you don’t want out of Windows like OneDrive and telemetry etc. It’s a deployment tool, so probably not for most end-users, but it looks fun:
I think i have a copy of O/S 2 I could let you have for a reasonable price 
I just threw away my old MSDN stuff. I think I saw some OS/2 Disks there…
OS/2 s#cked sooooo much!!
I know that solution. Might be a last resort. But I have not given up on LINUX (yet).