Plugins I Have Known And Loved

On steep sale for the next several days:

(looks interesting)

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Saving all this money is costing me a lot of money! :joy: :joy: :joy:

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That is a pretty big price reduction, and like you said, looks really interesting. I downloaded the trial and ran a couple of my previous recordings through it, and it is ok. My stuff sounds better out of an Ampeg SVT plugin, but maybe I am biased because I use an Ampeg head and cabinet. Still, for $19, I am tempted…

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yeah, I’m kind of in the same boat. I like it, but I have so many things in my DAW I can basically do all this does really. And I can plug my amp head directly into my computer and record it, so I can get nearly an identical sound to what I play live soooo yeah, it’s kind of a “well, it’s a great sale, but do I really need to spend X to save Y?” XD


In other news, I combined the brainworx Rockerverb and Herbert into one and it was fucking incredible sounding. Two tracks in my DAW, each one with an amp and I liked both sounds individually, good god they were great together and greater than the sum of their parts.

I think a live rig would cost $5000-6000 :joy: The cab IRs were an Orange 4x12 w/ Celestion Creambacks and a SM57, and a Diezel front-loaded 4x12 w/ Celestion G12K-100s.

Wonderful guitar sound.

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Double tracking like this is a good idea anyway; it makes bass and guitar sound much better even with the same amp sim. You need to force the two tracks to have a bit of stereo dispersion from each other, and ideally either a pitch or a phase difference, but it just makes the bass sound so much bigger.

I’ve done it both ways - by hand or automatically - and both methods sound amazing. Not twice as good, but much better. I do it on all bass and guitar tracks now; I use MDoubleTracker right now which does the split and detuning/phase separation from a single track.

Works well on vocals too.

If I ever do a motorhead cover I am going to run one track through a bass amp sim and one through a marshall guitar amp sim I have :rofl:

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I know how double tracking works. This was more like when you mix two synthesizers together for one sound/track, or when a recording engineer mixes two or more mics together for the final sound, layering kicks, etc. It wasn’t so much a double-tracked guitar (though this would surely sound great that way, too) as it was one guitar tone. Double tracking this tone would probably be massive and now I’m curious to try it next time I have my guitar out…

Looking at it, the Rockerverb has the bass all the way down, lots of gain, treble is cranked and there is a bit of mid cut. The Herbert has the bass cranked, a little Presence reduction, slight boost to Deep, mics on both are 57s though the Herbert has it on the cap of a G12K-100 and the Rocker has 3 57s and doesn’t say where; it just says "custom-mounted 4x12 - 2x G12M65 Creambacks. No idea what the other two speakers are. All through some “magical Neve VX5” pre and/or EQ. I also adjusted the levels on both tracks but they are pretty even.

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Cool!

I only recently discovered how good doubletracking is; I never did this with synths as those are usually present and saturated enough. However I guess I have added stereo and Haas effects in synth patches which is kind of similar anyway.

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that’s why I brought it up. When it’s done with synths or say, kick drums, it’s like taking Something bassy, the mids of another sound, and the treble of another sound. I used to layer kicks like this all the time when using samples.

I probably should have just described it as “bi-amping” because that’s really what it is. And tghat’s a less- confusing way of trying to say it that makes more sense XD

Same thing Darkglass does in their preamps, etc.

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Yeah I like to do a lot of multiband stuff myself too, kind of going the other way though starting with a single track. I basically recreated NeuralDSP Parallax using Kilohearts Multipass in about five minutes, sounds awesome too. In fact Multipass had a preset that was similar too, it turns out. You can do really cool stuff with multiband compression and distortion. Modulations work well that way too - only chorus the high end, etc.

One of my covers still in the pipeline (probably won’t finish it as it was more just noodling) does layer a 909-style kick with a kick sample the way you describe, and it works really well.

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A better way to do what I was describing that would have led to less confusion on what I was talking about was to use Bitwig’s FX Layer device and put one amp/cab on their own layer :eyes: Now it’s just one track named “Rhythm Guitar” instead of two tracks in a Group named Rhythm Guitar XD

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Hmm. Upgrade price to V Collection 9 for me is $149. I already own SQ-80V, so basically I would be getting the MS-20, the new Voice and String synth plugins, and version updates. Still no Korg M1 or Roland D50. I think I’ll wait for 10.

I was about to be mad at the $150 lol. But owning SQ-80 explains it.

I’ve been on the fence about Cherry Audio’s MS-20, but now I can get it with a V Collection upgrade :smiley:

I was surprised about the MS-20 tbh. I don’t know if they can legally do the M1 since it’s a ROMpler though, and Korg still does M1 in the Legacy Collection. But I’m no lolyer.

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hey @howard what’s the new kilohearts v2 all about, heard anything?

Luckily it’s still $399 for me which keeps me from buying it… $150 would put it in the danger zone :joy:

Looks like they plan to roll out Phase Plant v2 this year with revisions to the snapins. Cool!

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Venus Theory breaks down V Collection 9:

And agree completely with him about SQ80V. It sounds so close to my old ESQ-1 it hurts.

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I have a discount code for Overload TH-U for 50% off. I don’t know much about these things, is TH-U any good?

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Hmm, I’ve never heard of that one. Might be interesting though.

I mistyped that one it should have said Overloud TH-U

Yeah it was easy enough to find, I’ve just never tried it. Maybe look for some reviews?