Saving strings for another day - how to "refresh"?

Oh! Be careful of the combinations. You don’t want to put screws in together with bridge or tuners. When you put the bridge (chrome) you kinda need to separate the saddle and especially springs, unless they are all chrome.

Some components are made out of galvanized material and the coating or outer layers got stripped and can coat your other components. Just think washing red socks in the same load of white.

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Hahaha! Yeah … well, it was a 220€ bass.
But you’re right: I had better spent 1000€ or more on a Fender … this way I would have more money left now, according to some strange calculation. Math is not our strength, @Barney :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

I was joking!

But good to know that not everything or any combination works. Not planning to clean tuners or bridges with the ultrasonic cleaner anyway … only things that are “loose”…

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Our implies both of us. My math is fine.

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I’m not much of a pickguard kind of guy but I dig the one on that Fender Jazz. Is that stock?

Oh, wow! This is what I could have gotten for 600€?
Do they also have that in short scale and double humbuckers for that price? :slight_smile:

PS Did you make the flowery pickguard yourself? How?

A chemical reaction between your hands or anyone’s hands and the strings can destroy strings pretty fast. I played in one band with a guitarist who played his acoustic most of the night but switched to electric for a handful of songs. He didn’t own an electric so I loaned him my Les Paul.

In just a handful of songs, maybe ten across the course of the night, the strings on my Les Paul were a wreck. Whatever chemical reaction he experienced with his acoustic stings carried over and my strings were black and coated with dead skin from his having played it only that much.

He refused to pay me for new strings so I stopped allowing him to play my guitar any longer. I don’t experience any reactions like that myself but I know that many do and it can chew up strings pretty quickly even if someone is wiping them down and cleaning up the neck after playing.

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It’s the cooling that gets you into trouble.

Ahh right - so it just becomes more effective at shredding stuff :rofl:

Of course to make supercritical water at that temp you need to be at pretty high pressure. 217 atm, in fact.

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No @faydout . South Korean firm ordered via Etsy.

https://www.etsy.com/ca/shop/STORMGUITAR?ref=shop-header-name&listing_id=1262892174&from_page=listing

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So uh, a washing machine, warm, gentle, no spin cycle isn’t a good idea either huh? :wink:

Probably kinda noisy too.

Ok, I finally managed to clean the strings on Ronin - those were the strings that were EOL, according to the “real” bass player.
So, I didn’t notice that they sound dull (cause of frog in hot water effect) and I was curious, if I would notice any change after having cleaned them with the ultrasonic cleaner.

What did I do (with each string):

  • Put just enough distilled water in the cleaner to cover the strings. If you use too much it will not be as effective…
  • Put some washing-up liquid in the water
  • Clean for 2x 7 minutes
  • Rinse with clear water
  • Wipe dry
  • Wipe with alcohol

Played it and listened.

How does it sound? It sounds … like new strings!
It’s much brighter now, with that light metallic tone that I hate so much on new EXL170S.

Noticing that dreaded metallic tone is a clear indicator of refreshed strings, in my opinion.

Now I need to get some DNA and dirt on those strings again, to make them sound good, but not dull :slight_smile:

In my opinion there is no reason to throw away strings so soon, and if I can refresh strings at least once more, the cost of the ultrasonic cleaner is refinanced and after that I will start making money ^^

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Good for you :smile:

You realize that you should avoid longitudinal torsion in your strings, and this might be harder to accomplish when re-strung (as they already have adjusted to a shape/torsion before). Likewise, establishing correct witness points is likely more tricky as their positions can no longer be assumed to be the same as before.

I suggest leftover grease from the Christmas turkey/duck :wink:

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How hard is it to put the strings back on the bass?
I always imagined it is more difficult because of the already wound end of the string?

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Very easy, as I have these string retainers:

And this bridge:

So, it’s just a matter of putting the string on the bridge and string retainer. I also don’t need to “straighten” the winding around the tuner pegs, as they come off easily when loosened.
You can easily test it yourself, @Malyngo. Just loosen the peg a little … you can remove the string after a few turns.

The string will look like this:

As you can see, I don’t need to “straighten” the string at the tuner end, as I can easily put the string ON my string retainer and bridge, not put it through a hole (where you need to straighten the string, which will break it after a few times … and “forget” the position on the peg too … see the remark of @joergkutter ).

In fact, it’s easy with the string retainers and the bridge I have. The strings “fall” in their natural position, when I just hang them on the tuning peg with the existing winding of the string (I hope you can visualize that).
I just need to put the ball end into the bridge, and that’s it!

I think this is a great solution!

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It’s at least as easy as putting on new strings, if not easier. I’ve done it a few times already. The thing I wonder about is how long cleaning them like this is going to extend their lifespan. If the strings deadening is caused by metal fatigue as much as dirt and grime, cleaning them like this shouldn’t last as long as putting on a new set of strings. Even if you only get a few months out of this, it could be worth it over time though so I’m not crapping on the idea. More curious than anything.

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Ah, cool!

It’s really a big relief when people don’t crap on my experiments (that’s not always the case).
At least I can clean it after now :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

It’s an easy calculation: the ultrasonic cleaner costs 35€. A set of new EXL170S costs 22€.
After having cleaned two sets I have saved some money (and did something for the environment and against consumerism. I know, that’s not the american way, sorry!).

I will see how long they last … but maybe the 43KHz ultrasonic also “loosens” up the string, which could be good (or bad).

Yes it is! No cutting, no pushing unwound strings through the bridge or string retainer. It’s a 30 second thing…

I guess it depends highly on the bridge.
If it is one of those where you have to thread the string through a hole, I assume it is quite a hassle.

I might try it one Day, but right now it is going against my big Ball of string Project :smiley:

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Personally I would not do it with such a bridge. I have the Fender Highmass on my little travel bass, and while I like the tone of it, I’m not loving it cause of the hastle to remove the strings (if I want to reuse them).

I’ve done it on my bb300, which has the string through type of bridge. It only takes a couple of seconds to get it wound through.

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What is wrong with you

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