And if you watch one of the Beato/Spender collabs, you get both Old Boomer and Young Edgelord in the same video
Ok, sheās not an edgelord, but she is kind of following Rickās clickbait lead, especially on the āvocalists are dying out because technology!ā fearmongering.
And Beato has literally made the āthe youngs suck at musicā video.
I havenāt watched her stuff in quite a while. Every time I see it come up in my feed I look at the clickbait title, roll my eyes and carry on
I wish sheād just do her own thing, Iād rather listen to her play viola unfortunately YT as a business means you have to play their game. I find that in the last 4 years or so, thereās been an explosion of copycats always doing the same things, never innovating and itās really diluted the content.
Recently I needed to do some 3d animation and I hadnāt used the software since around 2017 so I figured Iād check YT to update my skills. At that time, there was maybe 6 good channels for the software and each one was somewhat specialized with the type of content they did. Now, there are dozens of channels, all with the same stuff and most of them arenāt nearly as good, theyāre just creating content for consumption. Iām sticking more to skillshare and udemy now for training courses.
I value my time and more and more, I just waste it being unproductive on YT. On the up side, it has been making me play a lot more
So, I donāt know any of the names mentioned in the previous comments - but Iām not the Tiktok generation, like you
Getting back to the topic, and understanding @sunDOG 's remark of the generational thing really well, these are my thoughts:
the studie says that music tends to have more repeating/simple lyrics. Which means: these songs have less to say. It might mean that the song writer was simply lazy, has no message or just limited himself/herself to the buzzwords to sell better. Itās going from āLawerence of Arabiaā to a Tiktok unboxing video.
Words like āIā or āmyā became more important. So while songs were orginally more about āyouā or āweā or even āthemā , songs are now more self centered ā¦ and things we own!? My car? My b#tch? My Glock?
Negative emotions prevail. Now I am a big fan of 80s new wave melacholia, but rage seems to be more important now. This is definetely a sign of time, where everybody seems to be in āflight or fightā mode. Just look at politics (but do not discuss it, cause of forum rules). Everybody likes to fight about everything. Loud! Obnoxious! Uninformedā¦
So we are talking about lazy, simple-minded, self centered and loud music for the tiktok generation, that does not want or is not able to explore their own emotions or grander ideas!?
Is this a peer-reviewed, academic study, supported by statistically verifiable evidence, or just anecdote? The fact that my dad through 80s music was cr@p, and I thought current music was cr@p (until my daughter started demanding things in the car) is anecdote, BTW .
I know about this generation thing, of course.
And remember: I spent (and still spend) most of my time in the techno scene, where my friends could be my grand children now.
So I try to stay open minded. For techno/electro itās easy, as there are no lyrics or nothing that means anything anyway.
But for lyrics itās different. Lyrics is poetry.!
And of course I can find trivial lyrics from all ages of musical history.
But I think - with social media and the rejection of āheavy contentā - something more profound is going on, that reflects in music, film and literatureā¦
We are in the middle of a real paradigm shift, dehumanizing people on a cognitive and emotional level. I 100% believe that!
Let me give an example. Love songs, especially ālostā love songs.
So, most of my younger friends start their relations on either Tinder (70%) or Joyclub (30% - this is the hardcore Tinder version). Some incidentally meet somebody in real life. But that is becoming really rare!
When the relationship breaks up they simply swipe into another (or spend some time with easy one night stands from Joyclub).
What song can you write about a breakup, when āloveā became just a good for consumption. People are easily replaced with an app. There is no time for suffering or reflection. Maybe future generation will not be able tooā¦
Surely we will not get something like āI want youā by Elvis Costello anymore!?
(The ācheesy partā ends at 0:50 - then the real song starts)
Did you read the PDF? I understand the topic āpeer reviewedā well, but every studie starts non-reviewed, to discuss and disprove it. You know, ādialectical principleā and all that.
So letās wait and find out. And in the meantime peer review it ourselves
Well thatās a nice thing to say, but unfortunately, like you, Iām mid-50s
My favorite music of all time was late '70s through early '90s, and even I think '80s pop is likely the second worst, behind '70s pop, which is easily the worst. Todayās pop is subjectively and objectively so much better.
Because aināt nothin touching āMuskrat Loveā when it comes to shitty, shitty pop.
You were replying to my comment about pop and even quoted it
And letās be intellectually honest here, the study is also about pop. Using lyrics written by Roland Orzabal or Ian Curtis is likely a categorical fallacy in terms of the study. I can easily produce examples from the last 20 years that easily stand up to my favorite bands from '70s and '80s lyrically, too, including Joy Division (my favorite band, as it turns out).