Song tracks

Hi folks. I apologize in advance if this has been addressed earlier in other threads.

At the moment, I am dependent on You Tube to find isolated bass tracks for songs I want to learn. Sometimes I get real lucky and find one with tabs and even at varying speeds. But it is really a hit-and-miss exercise, with most searches turning up vanity performances by amateurs that may be fun to watch, but not instructive.

So … does anybody know of software that can take a track and bust out only the bass? Bonus if it also shows a tab and can be done at slow, medium, and fast pace just like Josh uses to feature songs we play at the end of modules.

I want to be self-reliant in this regard and not have to do endless online searches to find what I am looking for.

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Moises and RipX DAW.

Many prefer Moises, but that’s a subscription. RipX DAW is a one-off purchase…

I have both…

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Groovy … many thanks friend. I will check out both … which do you prefer?

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Moises

Advantages:

  • conversion is done on server (is great if you have a slow PC)
  • Smart Metronome function
  • simple

Disadvantages:

  • subscription
  • audio quality is not great (they want to sell you the more expensive subscription)

RipX DAW

Advantages:

  • audio quality is better
  • one time purchase
  • MIDI transcription - can be used for tabs. Quality is often soso: don’t expect too much!

Disadvantages:

  • a little more complicated. But once you get it, it’s great
  • you need a faster PC as conversion is done locally

As I said: I prefer RipX DAW! But I might be the only one :slight_smile:

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Great rundown on your experiences. Much appreciated. Thanks again.

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Both have trial versions. Just test it.

If you have a Mac and no DAW yet: consider Logic Pro. @howard can say more about that. He is the DAW nerd, eh, expert ^^

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If you’re by chance an apple user, the new Logic Pro comes with a built in stem splitter and from my experience with both, does a better job of removing the bass from tracks than Moises. I’m paying the $5 a month for Logic on my iPad which is I think $2 more than moises but you also get the full Logic Pro also.

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I use Ultimate Vocal Remover

https://ultimatevocalremover.com/

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Both Logic and RipX did a poor job for me when I tried it, but my test was kind of unfair. I only use these for song analysis so my usage is kind of different than others here as well.

Almost all of them used to be based on one specific software model (Deezer’s Spleeter) so in reality they historically have actually been more or less equivalent. That’s changing lately though and I am not an expert there.

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OK. I am working through all the helpful suggestions. My free trial of Moises is meh. I have to buy music from iTunes (which I have not done since I bought the first generation iPod with click wheel) and cannot leverage my Spotify subscription. So that is a mucho bummer. Plus, the metronome feature must be a paid upgrade as the song does not vary slow down or speed up) when I make selections. There is no tablature I can discern (just chords) which is a big drawback. However, the interface is great and the track selection worked really good.

I will next try your favourite.

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Apologies accepted :joy:

I use Moises it’s easy enough to live with. Although, it used to be much, much easier you just copy and paste YouTube link and it’s done, now my quicky is to just screen record the YouTube and process from my photo album.

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YES! It’s always better to have (= purchase) offline tracks, preferably FLAC. MP3 and M4A are ok, but not great. Youtube ripps always s#ck! And ripping from YouTube does not respect the artist, in my opinion…

We are here for music … so it’s always a good sign to purchase what you like. Spotify is the death of great music, in my opinion…

PS I used the Metronome feature of Moises a lot, but now I simply set the drum track to +6db. Nice side effect: I learn not to ignore the drums while playing :slight_smile:

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This is going to be the case with any of these stem splitters unless like @Whying_Dutchman said, you rip them from youtube. I usually go through amazon so that I don’t have to fuss with aac vs mp3 format. MP3 is just more universal.

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I use the freebie version of 4k Video Downloader to download the youtube audio. I can’t tell the difference in audio quality.

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You will have to own any music you want to split. I find this annoying as well since I pay for Apple Music, but songs are only $1.29/ea and I think it’s important to support the artists who’s music you will be manipulating. I suppose you could torrent anything you want and steal it :man_shrugging:t2:

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You can just upload the youtube audio you get from the 4k app I mentioned previously.

I do it on songs I cover which I support by my sub to songsterr where I practice them incessantly with the youtube video, and when I play the same song on my Spotify.

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So, if you use RipX DAW, it might be a little overwhelming first. @fennario might be the expert here!?

What I do:

I rip like this:

This is what it looks like ripped

I export track/mix with bass muted:

I export with track/bass-only (you can also export all individual stems):

I export track/mix with drums louder (+6db). This is instead of a metronome track:

This is how to export “transcribed” music. It mostly sucks, like @howard says. But it can be a great starting point, if you cannot get it from UG, Songster or Rocksmith:

This is how to export a mix (ie track with bass muted or louder drums):

This is how to export individual stems:

Notes:

  • the resulting MIDI can be imported into Guitar Pro or Tux Guitar to create tabs
  • I use FLAC as it’s lossless, not AAC/M4A or MP3…