Strings epiphanies

Yes, we already have a plethora of string-related threads, but I didn’t quite find a good one to add this post to, so I opted for starting a new thread.

It’s also a little different in that it doesn’t start out with asking for recommendations or suggestions; instead I dish out unsolicited advice on strings based on my own experiences.

Ignore at your own peril :grin:

Until recently, I was firmly in the nickel(-coated) roundwound camp. Anything else wasn’t really “good” enough. Stainless steel I found too harsh, flats I found too grabby, half-rounds were neither here nor there, and so on.

The first argument (too harsh) isn’t really a valid one. By adjusting how and where you attack a string, and by using proper EQ setting, you can get a lot of tones out of most strings (within limits given by type and age). The second argument (too grabby) was always the real argument driving me towards certain strings, which - for me - were almost exclusively Thomastik-Infeld Jazz roundwounds (but I also liked some of the DR strings, Elixir Nanowebs or the old Fodera nickels).

And two recent epiphanies have actually in a way confirmed to me that - again for me - it’s all about the feel of the strings: how supple and non-grabby they feel to the fingers, how they should be not too heavy in gauge, how I don’t want them too taut (which also depends on your type of neck and neck length etc.) and so on… much more so than any particular sound they may (or may not) produce, or are associated with.

Epiphany 1: I received a new bass recently which had some flats on it. I was wary, to say the least. However, they felt… good. I did some digging and it turned out to be stainless steel flats (La Bella 760FS-B) - and they are surprisingly good and feel great.

Epiphany 2: I had had a set of La Bella black nylon tape wounds (750N-B) for a while, but only just now put them on my Roks 5-string - they are amazing as well and feel really nice. Most sets I had had on this bass were very taut, but these have a nice suppleness to them, which I like. Might just be the perfect strings for this bass…

So, my own takeaways are:

  • feel trumps sound (each day, every day, and all day long)
  • don’t generalize from one bad experience to all strings of similar type and materials
  • finding the right strings for you is a loooong and costly undertaking

Getting specific advice from others (on specific brands and makes) can as often lead to disappointment, as strings are very personal. It can, however, provide some inspiration, but you will need to test them yourself before making a verdict (hearsay and third party opinions have very limited usefulness in this context).

If the strings feel right, you will enjoy playing them and you will find ways to make them sound “good” for your music or projects!

OK - discuss :grin:

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You should try TI Jazz Flats. They are absolutely the non-grabbiest of the non-grabbiest I’ve ever tried, and they’re definitely non-taut compared to other flats as well.

Other than that, good on you for finding stuff that suits.

Now, what exactly does this mean:

Hmmm? :thinking:

(Although I suspect it might be somewhat snowy in color, no?)

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I don’t doubt your judgement, Mike. I had one set of them… a number of years back now; and they didn’t grab me (pun intended). I don’t know; I guess I wasn’t mature enough as a player back then. I am sure I will try them again at some point :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

Why, yes! And it was shown in the “fretless” thread :squinting_face_with_tongue:

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I bet it looks something like this.

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Close enough :winking_face_with_tongue:

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When I got my new bass I bought 7 sets of flat wounds to try.

They were all different and I ended up settling on the LaBella Low Tension Flats.

No amount of reading other people’s opinions could give me that data.

Expensive? Yes. But I now know what I like.

I sold a few of them at a steep discount back to people on this forum. So someone else can benefit from my experiment.

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This discussion is 100% relevant to me right now. I think (hope?) I’ve settled on the different BGs I wanna keep at each house, so now I’m on the quest to find the perfect strings for me. I’ve tried many, many, many. At least strings are less expensive than a different BG. :rofl:

What I’ve found is that tension is probably the most important factor for me. After tension, it’s texture. Texture is closely associated with noise level to me and to keep my callouses under control. And what I’ve also found is there is no single magic string for me. I need different strings for different situations.

I’m happy with my choices so far. I use TI flats for everyday use. I love them. Love the tension, love the texture, love the control and love the sound. However, sometimes I want a different flat tone so I have LaBella DTB 39/96s on my Ps. Those 2 strings cover nearly every situation for me.

But like most things in life, there are outliers. I’ve found my choices above aren’t good for metal or punk. And it’s just not the tone, it’s the tension as well. I need higher tension to achieve higher speeds. Something about the time for the string to rebound as I pluck or maybe it’s just in my head. :rofl: Either way, I’ve been trying out different rounds. My current choice is DR Sunbeam 45-105s - I like the warmer tone and they feel good on my fingers. Most importantly, I can get my plucks per second (is that a thing?) way up there.

What I don’t know is how long they last OR if is there a better alternative out there. So I have a pack of blue Roto66s ready to test. :rofl:

Sorry for the wall of text, but at least you guys understand where I’m coming from. My wife would’ve stopped this conversation very early on. Hahaha

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I love most string sets. I kinda have to, :rofl: On one hand my favorite brand and model is pretty much splits between the Ernie Ball slinky and Fender 45. They are good and cheap and they are usually on the bass I GAS.

Then it’s the exotics, Optima Gold string, TI Jazz rounds and flats, TapeWounds, different “Gold” wrapped La Bella tape wound, gold, white gold, copper gold. Pyramid gold Flats. most of the high $$$ sets with excellent marketing claims. Then it’s everything else in between.

To me, if I have not played something for a while, I can either feel weird or welcome. I’m not usually a Flats playing guy but lately I’ve been pretty obsessed with the Joe Dart 2801/ 2805 strings. It’s quite satisfying to play as it’s higher in volume and mid forward in the mix, which makes the note stands out.

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