Nice group. My church has a simpler setup - piano, lead guitar, bass, mic’d cajon. I’m backup for the cajon because of my drumming background. I need to audition for the backup bass role and I think B2B will get me ready by September. The leader (piano) selects songs appropriate for the group size and part. Also a 6 to 10 person choir.
It’s an evangelical church and I’m hoping I can influence them toward a little more jazzy gospel. It will be a tough boundary to cross but maybe I can sneak in a couple of licks. I’ll be low man on the totem so it’ll need to be very subtle. as a 77yo i need to be quick about it without raising suspicion.
Hmmm. the radial stage bug is interesting. I’m new to all this stuff. The bass at my church uses a fender rumble 100 and, in my opinion, it’s too much bass. I think it would be better if bass control was done at the sound board. My learning amp is a Fender Mustang lt25 (I know, it’s not a bass amp) it’s very cool since it has lots of software options I can control with Fender Tone. I just don’t think it will hold it’s own from the stage. Everything else in the group goes thru the sound board which may be the best option for me instead of spending a few hundred USD on another amp.
Is there anything i need to be aware of before asking the sound man to plug in?
Hahaha. I’m a youngster at 72 but appreciate your quick wittiness…
Guess it would all depend on the size of the auditorium along with the speakers attached to the sound board…. When I play with my bands, I play through a Fender stack of two 2x10’s
at 800amps…. Not much really, but with bass, the sound should be checked mid room given the amount of air that bass speakers move…. Many times I’m only at 1/2-3/4 volume in a 200-300 seat auditorium and the bass mixes well without overpowering. Splitting into a mixing board also works well but the bass is very low and sometimes unheard, so having another on stage amp really helps but most church music directors that I’ve dealt with keep the bass frequencies to a low level in order to enhance the vocal frequencies in worship music…. The key is in balance, and a good ear on the board goes a long way to enhancing those deep bass notes in any mix…… Such a challenge at times…!!..
This is interesting to me…… So, all Christians, yet different continents lean to different worship/praise songs/styles…??.. Curious…. Are we talking music style, lyric style/content, etc…??.. So curious about this….
Wow!! This is so cool!!
@GGWAW very nice rig! Looks familiar- same exact tuner and Cali 76 to start- but then an Octave (never used) and SansAmp. All mounted to a Target brand spice shelf. I got a little complicated and used my Boss ME-90B last Sunday and it was too much work dialing it in- haha. I tried to dirty it up for “I Believe” by Phil Wickham.
And lets not forget the wavelength of a 30 Hz frequency is about 38 feet.
The church is small - 2 side by side rows of maybe 25 rows of pews plus a balcony of maybe 5 rows.
Interesting things to consider. Thanks Lanny.
Yes, yes, yes…… This is where things get interesting - especially in a church setting where the acoustics may not be optimal for lower frequencies…. This is what makes playing bass to praise/worship music challenging…… Playing the low notes might (probably will) get lost in the mix since most on the mixing board focus on the vocal frequencies of worship/praise songs. Sometimes playing that bass line high on the neck might bring out a bit more (your) bass tone, but it might get lost in the guitar rhythm frequencies…. This is where I use octave slides at times…… Very effective is used sparingly and at the right moment.
We have many styles
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Glorious is “pop louange” / “Pop Praise”
Glorious - Apple Music -
Mathieu Cossez - same style, maybe less known
Matthieu Cossiez - Apple Music -
Emmanuel - Praise
Emmanuel Music - Apple Music -
Taize - Medidation style
Taizé - Apple Music
And of course many others !
I have an octave pedal but thought it won’t be useful in our context
The SansAmp was tempting but very expensive and introducing more “headache” in terms of finding the right sound
Funny enough, I just bought a used Rumble 100 to leave at the church - it sounds better than the guitar amp that was there. I’m planning to use it in // to church (very) small speakers
Not in this church:
It’s the Kölner Dom, in fact a cathedral. I love it - my grandfather worked on the restauration of the painted windows after WW2, so I always feel his spirit when I’m there…
thanks. I love Apple Music. Just some things I wish they’d fix with managing playlists but it’s a great resource.
Wow! I couldn’t agree more W. You clearly have given this some thought. Your analysis is quite deep for someone not churchy.
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