lol, well sure. But then again various knobby analog synthesizers have offered some types of flexible routing in hardware since the ‘70s.
Anyway, if the limitation doesn’t bug you that’s great, it’s not something to worry about.
lol, well sure. But then again various knobby analog synthesizers have offered some types of flexible routing in hardware since the ‘70s.
Anyway, if the limitation doesn’t bug you that’s great, it’s not something to worry about.
Do you have a better suggestion for a multi-effects board that offers a similar sort of direct control of effects parameters without having to menu dive?
Nope. Like I said, the limitation on effect selection and order in manual mode would be a showstopper for me, but that’s a me thing and shouldn’t affect your preference. I’m not judging the thing as bad for anyone but me.
Cool. That sort of answers my question about this board. I agree with you that I would ideally like to be able to re-order the chain of effects controlled by the physical controls. But the #1 feature I most want is the physical interface that lets me directly select and control effects parameters.
It sounds like there is not a better option on the market that provides the feature I am most interested in, unless I want to build out a full pedal board, which would have other downsides of its own.
That’s why I went with the GX. It’s just as (easier actually) to configure it on my laptop than using the physical buttons. I like having the buttons to kick while I’m playing though. Probably just me just being old and used to how we did it when I was young but I prefer still being able to stomp on a foot switch.
Yep, if it does what you want and you are happy with the manual mode ordering then there’s nothing for you to worry about, looks like a nice unit in that case.
Aha. I don’t think I’d seen the GX-100 when I’d originally posted this. That does look like a nice interface and would offer the sort of control that I would be happy with. I dislike the interface on the Zoom B1 - with adjustments hidden under multiple menu layers and only one footswitch to activate/deactivate effects. I wouldn’t have an issue with a single menu layer to select an effect and then multi-function dials to adjust parameters.
All that said. I think the ME-90b is probably still the better choice for me. I can’t say for certain which interface will suit me better, but I’m about 60/40 that I’ll prefer the ME. It’s also cheaper and includes a DI out, which the GX does not.
It’ll be something to try. If I decide I want something different, I can always swap out later.
Have you seen the Zoom B3n and B6?
Yep! It sounds like it will work better for you based on what you described you wanted, so it’s worth a shot for sure.
Looking at both pedals also reminds me that I can link the Dual BT dingle at my gig get a stand for the iPad Pro and just really geek out at one of the gig with the Katana 210. I have the GA-FC as well as the other Boss foot switch. Although the need fo my bass effects really limited to just 2-3 so it’s really not so much need for on the fly tweaking.
Not a recommendation per se, but there is freeware available for a better experience with the Zoom products:
Yeah ToneLib Zoom is more or less required IMO. It makes working with the Zoom devices very easy.
Except, for some reason, the B2four…
ME-90b arrived today and I have been playing around with it and the Boss Tone Studio software. It appears to have the power to set things up how you describe you’d like them to be.
You can create and save your own patches. When you do, you are able to put the effects in your desired order. When that patch is active, the knobs and dials will control those parameters for the associate effects type.
The one thing it appears to be limited on is that I don’t think you can que up multiple effects that it classes of the same type. So like, you can’t run Overdrive and Fuzz because those are both “Drive” effects, or Envelope Filter and Auto-Wah, because those are both “Filter” effects.
That would be the killer for me. I kind alove running multiple reverbs as part of my default sound. Looking at my set up right now, I’ve got a physical RV-3 with 2 reverbs (shimmer is turned down most of the way) going on my GX.
Ok, that’s pretty cool. Glad to hear it.
That’s definitely a bummer for compression where you might want a compressor up front and a compresssor or limiter at the end for high gain stuff. Still, it’s good that you can change the order and yet still use the manual mode knobs at least.
This is a good example of why I don’t think I could go fully with just a multi effect with some sort of DI. I always keep a compressor at both ends of my chain. I may not use the one at the end all the time but I do, do that often enough that it’s got a permanent home on my “board.”
Edit: Actually, I could do that in the GX-10/100 software. I still think I like having a physical comp somewhere in there though. If nothing else, my Keeley isn’t going anywhere.
It’s also a good example of why I do everything in software now
Compression is one of the few exceptions. There are a couple effects types that it allows you to que up in different locations. Compressor is one of them. In manual mode it looks like it puts them after the EQ and at the end of the chain as defaults.
I need to play with that software some more. I spent an hour trying to get a sound that was close to “my sound” and have left it alone since then. I want to go a little nuts with putting effects in all the places they shouldn’t go and see if something fun comes of it.
What it can’t do that would be nice is to put a split in my effects chain to swap a couple effects with a pedal switch mid-song for verse vs. chorus.
You also can’t see the Names of programmed patches. It’s just a little 2-digit LCD display that will tell me the number of a patch. So you would need to write a cheat sheet of what’s what.
Also like other similar multi-effects, there are effects out/in jacks to insert other pedals in the middle of the chain in addition to the Input/Output.