I’m guessing it uses the pedal sims to shape the tone
I found it on the Interweb and it sounds pretty good with a solid body. I noodled around with using my Hofner and the Dub King and to me, it sounds closer to an upright. I’m not home to post some screen shots of the patch, but I will do it when I get back.
You are my hero - thanks!
Well if it’s from Thomann and they are offering warranty (standard) why not?
This is so true. While I have several basses with saddle piezo I barely use it except for the Ibanez Affirma and the Willcox Lightwave Sabre because they are pretty much integral to the sound I barely touch that feature.
That said the one time I need it on my Bongo it worth every seconds and the same goes to my modded Fender Jazz bass you know how that story ends.
Makes it doubly-fretless. Negative frets.
Consider my mind boggled
Could you post the patch settings or upload the patch?
I have only seen one Upright Bass patch for the B1Four and it wasn’t great- I’d like to try this one also
If you want to sound like a double bass, try a Kala U-Bass using the funky rubber strings.
Honestly though if you want to sound exactly like one using plugins, then yes, something like what @TheMaartian said where you do pitch-to-midi and then trigger some double bass soundware (almost assuredly will be a sample pack) would get you there. The reason he mentioned MPE support mapping the input to the MIDI is if you want any expression with it that’s one way to get it, because basic MIDI mostly gives you velocity and aftertouch.
I will as soon as I get back home. I don’t have access to it on the road.
Cheers
Aren’t the Dub King’s around 11 - 12 hundred Euro brand new? I’d consider spending the extra on a new one vs wondering about that crack in the neck.
Yeah if it’s only a couple hundred I would agree, go new or find a better deal on a used one. This doesn’t look like a good deal to me.
Why plugins?
So here’s an experiment in tone… Surely it’s all in the fingers and EQing, I thought…?
Anyway, here’s an attempt to get an upright tone from the most unpromising of basses, my crappy Hohner Shorty. This bass has a single humbucker, more or less rammed against the bridge. So…I rolled off the tone, played with my thumb up the neck (as in over the fretboard) and then EQ’ed for bass in GarageBand - there is no other processing.
That’s All Right - ELVIS
Need to listen to it over head phones.
The video that @Al1885 was very helpful - and confirms what @joergkutter said:
- play close to the neck
- roll of treble
- use neck pickup
as well as:
- use one finger
- palm mute (or use foam at the bridge to mute)
I have tried all this and got quite far too. One finger technique is hard for more complex songs though. Are you using your thumb?
This is what makes us humans (or apes :-))
And playing so close to the neck (or even on the neck) needs some practice, at least for me.
I’m not quite there yet, but it’s slowly approaching what I’m looking for…
Yes, have a listen with headphones, I think I get reasonably close.
To summarise, I rolled the tone off and played with my thumb, over the frets, actually over about the 18th.
This is the first time I’ve tried to play with my thumb, hence picking a song that was just root and fifths
In post, I EQed the bass, removing the treble and mids:
I didn’t palm mute or have foam under the strings. I also could not select a neck pick up as the bass simply doesn’t have one!
Maybe try adding a tiny amount of reverb or delay to try and simulate the body resonance?
I reckon I could get my Epiphone viola to sound pretty close- humbucker near the neck, resonant body, a bit of reverb as you suggest…
I also like the reverb idea. Maybe make it sound “thumpy” with foam at the bridge, and then add reverb, to get the resonance back?
Very short Delay probably even better.
Ha … that’s strange: sometimes it sounds almost right, and then not so much.
I can’t explain what it is … the hard thump is missing (that’s why I think that foam might be a good thing) , but that’s all right (…).
But I have the feeling that sometimes very low freqs kick in and are gone a moment later. Like the effect is “breathing” somehow, or compression limited to a specific freq range?
Maybe you need to accept that there is no one “upright bass sound™” (patent pending etc.), but that it depends on so many things (just like on an electric bass)!?!
Next thing to ask could perhaps be: what sound does best “serve” this particular song?? Find it, and be happy with it
I mean, what is the next thing: “how can I get my Fiat Uno to drive like a Mercedes AMG (using plugins)??”