How can I make the bassline more audible?

Hi Buzzers,

for a getting-to-know-each-other-rehearsal with a band who’s ad I answered I need to pick out the bassline of their (original) songs by ear from their spotify. For some reason that gives me a hard time. I can find out the chord progression and melody parts quite well, but I find the bassline hard to hear. I know I could just go with root notes, but I’m curious what the original bassist played exactly and I want to come at least close to that. I have decent studio headphones, the Steingberg UR22C DAI, two swissonic studio monitors, but to be honest I only like plugged it all together until I heard a sound and that was it. How can I make the bassline stand out more with my equipment?

Thanks everybody!

Andrea

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Hi Andrea…are you able to convert the song into an mp3 and put it into Moises AI? Then you can use Moises to split the tracks by instrument, turn up the bass to 100 and turn down the other instruments to 20 volume.

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Thanks, that was really helpful. It’s still pretty blurry, but I can figure it out much better.

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Yeah, when you get the stems, bass usually sounds pretty muddy - just the nature of the beast.

For a little more info, you could feed that stem into something like Transcribe! (free trial) and it helps analyze the notes.

Of course, working it out by ear is a valuable skill to have…

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If you subscribe to something like Ultimate Guitar (to me, has the best quantity of ‘good tabs’) you can simply solo the bass line and it is clear as a bell.

Tab may be a bit wrong, but this actually allows you to hear the tab errors quite well too when you go to play it as an added bonus.

Black friday deals are usually huge for UG subscriptions.

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Oh, really? I thought about getting a UG subscription when I started bass. Gonna take another look.

Yes, it is and I think I have it as long as the line is audible enough. I wouldn’t bother using tools then.

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A better and free stem separation solution is:

If it is an original song, you could use Songsterr’s AI to get the tabs.

This is how you can analyze original (or unknown) songs:

Is it possible to convert a song from Spotify into mp3? What do you use to do that?

Audials should be able to do that…

Also, if it’s on Spotify it might also be on Qobuz (or even Bandcamp).
The you can download, also in FLAC format…

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I’ve never converted Spotify to mp3, but it looks like what Whying_Dutchman suggested (Audials) will do exactly what you’re looking for. Then, if you pop it into Moises or another stem splitter, you can just mute the other instruments and jack up the volume of the bass. The vast majority come out crystal clear on Moises for me, but sometimes a live version will get muddled. The other week I put in the studio recording of She’s My Baby by Mazzy Star and some parts of the bass were overlayed in the guitar track. But, overall, Moises has been a game-changer for me.

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Try Ultimate Vocal Remover 5. It’s the best current solution, in my opinion….

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This gives you a “vocals” stem and an “instruments” stem. I haven’t figured out how to get individual stems for each instrument, if that’s even possible with UVR. I use Song Master Pro for that. It’s not free, but it’s a great tool for learning songs.

Ultimate Vocal Remover

Song Master & Song Master Pro

Nope.

I got 4 proper stems. Vocals, bass, drums, other.

Very very clean, I was impressed.

There is also a 6 stem mode…

How do I select those? This is what the default screen looks like. I only get the 2 vocals and all instruments stems. There’s no manual or documentation that I can find.

I have selected the Demucs processing method, but there are others you can try:

And then the htdemucs_ft model. Note that you can download more here!

I use Perplexity to give me answers for usage. The Pro version is free for PayPay customers:

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I probably shouldn’t have given it an 8 minute song to separate. It’s taking some time. I used the “htdemucs” model that was installed with the UVR app, and I just downloaded the “htdemucs_ft” model. I’m using the default one now, but will try the _ft model when the first separation finishes. What, if any, differences have you noticed between the two?

Thanks for the assistance. I don’t often ask for help, but when I do, I really need it! :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

I was a boy scout - assisting is my one reason to live :slight_smile:

On my PC it does not take very long (not as long as RipX or Studio One), but I have a reasonably heavy GPU.

I am working on a remix where I don’t have access to the original files (Vocals, Synths, Beats etc.).
I used Studio One Pro’s stem separation initially, but I noticed three things:

  • the vocals stem contains parts of the synth
  • playing the track without the vocals stem (for a gig, for example) sounds artificial and somehow empty.
  • Parts of the drums went to another stem, so I could not isolate and remove them, for the remix.

With UVR5 everything is clean, well almost: the vocal track was 99% great, but in one 2 second part it had a strange distortion. I cut that part from the Studio One Pro vocals stem and put it into the new UVR5 vocal track.

Problem solved - you gotta think creatively…

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Thanks, guys, for all the options and ideas. I can figure it out now somehow, although it’s still not very clear. It also annoys me a bit, that they didn’t give me any more but this, something like lead sheets, for example. I feel the recordings are heavily “produced”, if you know what I mean. A part of me considers not to go, but I will, because I’m not gonna wonder for the rest of my life how it would have been :smiley:

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Good luck and most importantly, HAVE FUN!

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