How to evaluate your timing

Lately I’ve been focusing on learning songs really fast but I feel like I’ve taken my eye off of my timing.

Curious to hear what you folks are doing to evaluate your timing other than just listening to your recorded self.

I’ve seen somewhere where it was recommended to record yourself in a DAW and then compare bass and drum tracks to see where you line up.

I wish there was an AI tool of some sort that could tell you realtime if you were early/late.

One of the things I do sometimes is play using the original as the backing track. In other words without the original bass line removed. As I tend to play with my bass louder than the original line I should not be able to hear it at all; if I can then I’m out. Simple as that! Particularly useful on some of the jazz tracks I’m working on where it can be very easy to slip on the timing.

Oh and if I’m struggling then I’ll make a slower version of the track. Get that down and then take it back up.

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This. You’ll soon hear where your timing is out!

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Maybe skip ahead on b2b to module 14?
It has the perfect exercise for this

Introducing the ultimate groove workout! This exercise will help you to keep time accurately and also make it easier for you to play along with other musicians

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Oh awesome. I NEED AN ULTIMATE GROOVE WORKOUT! :partying_face:

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The one thing that helps keep your timing right on is to relax. The best way to do that is to practice hell out of it.

There’s a shortcut but not shorttime. Play it slow, really slow and slowly increase the tempo. Once you get it back up to original tempo keep increasing the tempo till (if you can) 20% more speed, by the time you get back to original speed it’s like Neo dodging the bullets.

Nick Cambell can literally plays DeanTown in his sleep at original speed. Here he is playing one at double the tempo.

Of course it’s much easier because it’s on a short scale. :joy:

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And as if by magic, this appears on my insta feed…

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That was like a meditation video. I think I’m going to put it on loop and sleep to it :sweat_smile:

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I’ll add to this.

Everything @Al1885 said, but when I get back to 100% speed I will record myself twice into GB.

I will play my bass tracks back in independent ears with the original bass and drum stems in stereo (I will use the original bass track sparingly tho as the stems I use aren’t that great).

This way as the song progresses I can check my timing is in keeping with the track by dropping different stems in and out (usually drums) but also allows me to assess if my timing is consistent across both my tracks.

As an added bonus I can also assess is my tone consistent.

Working for me

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Ooh I like panning to each ear. That’s a great idea. Today I tried to record a cover and when I heard it my timing was so bad I set my drum machine up and played 8th notes in different combinations for about 1/2 an hour.

Really trying to dig in to timing today. I also think I was relying too much on my ear and feel before getting a handle on what the rhythms really sound like. This video had some good pointers.