Satellite MIDI might be the option forward!?!
(Disclaimer: haven’t tried it; not really my expertise…)
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Yeah it would require an external MIDI instrument and effect pair like that, Apple has an internal IAC bus that does a similar thing too but it’s not helping.
I feel like there should be a way to do this just in Logic itself. Like Apple should provide a MIDI effect to add to an AU instrument track that does it.
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Poked back in to Reaper and this was so trivial. Sigh. And the worst part is these are all self-inflicted limitations on Logic’s part.
What I really want is Logic’s nice UI and builtin feature set but Reaper’s flexibility and routing. And lack of bugs and high stability.
Hmm. Bitwig, maybe.
I remember having issues with midi routing in Logic so I sticked with Ableton. Logic roots are more toward instrumental mastering and less focus on electronic music.
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Mainly directed at @howard as I remember you moving over everything to a MacMini not too long ago… (but others might have tried similar things).
I finally got my MacMini now and want to set it up for all my music stuff.
How were your experiences with moving plug-ins etc (stuff with licences, activation codes, iLoks and other paraphernalia designed to f… everything up)? Any pointers, things to watch out for? Moves to avoid?? 
Thanks!
The only thing you want to really be aware of is that some plugins will not have been updated for Apple Silicon and will be less efficient. My Mini is doing awesome though.
iLok works fine with the same account, no worries there. You’ll need to unregister your prior machine of course. And then you will need to reactivate everything, which is tedious, but no big deal.
Logic can only use Audio Unit plugins, which is annoying if you have something only released as a VST for Apple.
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Yeah, it seems all (older) Logic plug-ins are not validated for use by the plugin manager. All 3rd party plug-ins are… what gives, Apple? 
Thanks, I will take it step-by-step 
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TBH it was pretty painless for me 
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Good to know 
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I’ve simply got to be missing something. MIDI routing in Logic simply can’t be this limited, or no one would use it with hardware.
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Just gave up and am going back to Reaper for a while, maybe forever. Posted about it in the Favorite DAW thread.
I am struggling to get audio routing going using Loopback and, indeed, something fundamental is amiss because it just won’t work… Probably some global system setting or perhaps a sub routine not having been granted access to some part of the OS… I don’t know, it’s frustrating 
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Logic seems to have very very rigid and limiting ideas about how routing works in general. Sort of like how it, Ableton, and Bitwig have track types that are each very different. Reaper just has “tracks”, and you can route their inputs and outputs however you like. Logic does not work this way. It has instrument, external instrument, and audio tracks and busses, and the routing options are much more limited.
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LOL, I hacked it to work. Basically I just created an external instrument track, didn’t connect it to anything, then added Kushview Elements as a MIDI effect AU. Then, inside Elements, I built the entire routing graph, and loaded Pigments in it as a VST3i, not an AUi, and wired it directly to nodes in Elements I added for the external synth and MIDI in.
Elements: awesome. Logic: not so much, for MIDI routing.
Probably will just stick with Reaper, we’ll see. At least I can hack around the limitations in Logic if I want to. Of course needing to rebuild the entire MIDI routing inside an external freeware AU effects container is not a good look for Logic.
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Don’t think I understood much of what you explained, but… way to go 
Elements is a plugin host/container, much like a DAW. You use it to route MIDI and audio between nodes that can represent plugins, sound/MIDI inputs, outputs, etc. It’s a standalone app but also can be loaded as a plugin effect.
It’s a useful utility to play with things and even build your own instruments out of chains of other instruments/effects/etc.
Basically I used it to bypass all the MIDI routing in Logic and just route the MIDI myself.
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Ah, thanks for explaining (but I also realize your first post was mainly for @wellbi )
It looks to have some similarities to Rogue Amoeba’s Loopback (which, however, doesn’t reside in a DAW). I had been using some time recently to get a setup going where I could pipe various audio sources (bass/DAI/Logic, browser audio, QT player, microphone, etc) into a zoom session and not get feedback or echo and so on. Loopback helped a lot there…
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I tried Logic’s new mastering tool on a couple of tracks I wanted to officially release recently. I had a cover of Joni Mitchell’s The Magdalene Laundries originally recorded two years ago and another song of my own that I recorded this year. I remastered them together as I wanted to make sure there was consistency in the sound. I’m kind of shocked that the mastering tool worked so well. It’s much easier than me stumbling around in the dark with linear phase EQ and multipressors on the master bus (and I’m still to cheap to employ someone else to do it… maybe when I finish the full length album I’m working on…)
For reference, here’s my original go at The Magdalene Laundries: The Magdalene Laundries | Hot Pink Halo | PRF Monthly Tribute Series
And here’s my recently released one: The Magdalene Laundries | Hot Pink Halo
Listening back-to-back, there’s not a great deal of difference, but I think the original one is a touch harsher (and also probably just a bit louder), and I feel like I can hear a few more subtleties in the remaster.
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Yeah it’s pretty good. While Ozone does a lot more, I liked Logic’s assistant’s initial take better than I have ever liked the initial scan results from Ozone. Less tweaking required with Logic’s builtin.
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I’m very lazy (and cheap) with regard to out of the box plugins. The few that I’ve bothered to install are a couple of Valhalla plugins (they are the best; one day I will give them money for some of the paid plugins!), a free tape saturation plugin, a free version of the Pancake plugin and one or two other free things. I do use Decent Sampler instruments a lot as well (there’s a lot of cool weird instruments that people have made), and have a couple of the free LABS instruments, but I don’t find myself using those ones nearly as much. I just don’t deal well with the faff that some plugin companies make you go through to use their things. I used a mastering plugin for a while that came for free with one of our pieces of gear, and it worked well until I got a new Mac with an M1 chip and they didn’t update the plugin for years.
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