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RSVP here as well, now to find a way to remind myself that I won’t somehow miss regardless if I’m in the house or outside…

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Have fun. I love Tombstone. Be sure to have lunch at Big Nose Kates.
Happy birthday to you!

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People can talk and be seen on Discord? Last time I looked it was text only.

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What is so complicated about UTC? If you google it, it tells you what time it is where you are.

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That’s funny because Discord was originally (and is still primarily) used as voice chat in video games. And yes they do video now too.

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Two things come to mind:

a) there are two contradicting infos in this thread: is the event at 20:00 UTC or at 21:00 UTC?

b) if you check/google now (March 9), you’ll get a different answer then when you check on Sunday (March 12), because the US is switching to daylight saving time in the meantime

Well… UTC doesn’t change but the US timezone offsets from it do.

Hopefully someday the US will quit doing DST.

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True, but that is enough to cause confusion if you check before and after the switch…

In a way, UTC feels like having to take a third information into account… I’d rather work off the “4pm for John” as my reference (and knowledge of when DST starts and ends) :smile:

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There’s some great points in that list of falshoods, but there’s one that has me stumped.

Falsehood

  • A week (or a month) always begins and ends in the same year.

The week part of that statement I agree with, but when would a month begin and end in a different year?

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@howard, I wasn’t sure if your “DST” meant Savings Time or Standard Time, so I had to look this up (still waking up today). But DST = Daylight Standard Time, usually as “ST” with the local “E” for Eastern U.S. or other first letter for other locale (like EST, CST, PST).

For Daylight Savings time, the middle letter is D (Daylight Time, I guess), so “EDT” for Eastern Daylight Savings Time, sometimes as EDST.

Daylight Savings Time is not good for humans’ sleep, among other things. I personally would prefer if we went to Standard Time all year. Just MHO. Or just leave it as is, but go back to 6 months Standard, 6 months Savings.

The U.S. Senate passed a bill on March 6, 2023 to change to Savings time all year. When a similar bill actually did pass in 1975 and was signed by the President, it was supposed to last for two years as a trial, but only lasted 8 months; it was too unpopular. They never learn.

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We don’t do it here in Arizona, which can be confusing. Half the year we’re the same time as California (PST) and the other half the same as Colorado (MST).

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Ooh that’s an interesting one. Week is obvious but month - I wonder if this is referring to the use of different calendars (i.e. Chinese year 4721 starting on Jan 23 of this year, variable length years in solstice-based calendars, etc).

a) is incorrect because the first post tells you when it changes, making it non-contradictory
b) is correct, see a)

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This is why I always add this in each month’s post.

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Hi!

I would like to point out that the link above (http://time.unitarium.com/utc/2100 will give you both UTC and your local time.

The simplest trick to work with time zones is to check both the guest and host’s times.

To support @joergkutter, I have this classic for anyone who doubts that time zones aren’t an issue. I mean, DST starts here a week later, and it was supposed to be abolished/changed permanently, which adds to the confusion.

Cheers
Antonio

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OK, so let’s assume the hang is taking place at 21:00 UTC.

If I use the link provided by @antonio (or any similar “calculator”), it tells me that this corresponds to 10 pm for me. I will get the same result come Sunday, because neither UTC changes nor does Europe switch to daylight saving time.

If I were to join you all at 10 pm on Sunday, I would have missed the first hour.

I think the problem is that in your first post, you made a little mistake. You had it right in one of the first lines:

but then inserted the wrong information in your table.

Thus, in fact, during US daylight saving the hang is at 20:00 UTC (while it is at 21:00 UTC the rest of the year).

Well, anyway, let’s see how this plays out come Sunday :grin:

@antonio: hilarious video :wink:

The correct term is “Daylight Saving Time.”

The “savings” misnomer is a co-option of the defunct Savings and Loan financial institutions.

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@MikeC, Thanks, I stand (or actually sit) corrected! :smile:

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I see the mistake now.

Daylight Savings & Loan Time STARTS here on March 12, not ends.
No one really knows which is which here anyway, or what temperature in C it is.

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Daylight Saving Time is a waste of time.

And no one in America cares what temperature in C anything is. :upside_down_face:

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