Newbie in Search for Headphones

I recently started with the B2B course, though I noticed, I’m missing headphones I can use for practise, ones I can connect my bass and pc with to hear both. It probably wouldn’t be such a great idea to use an amp at 5am in the morning xD

What do I need to look out for if I wanna buy one? I saw some recommendations around here, but I’m unsure which one would really fit for me.

Here is one of many headphones threads on the forum. You can tap/click the magnifying glass icon in the top menu to search and find more. Just use the search term “headphones.”

Pretty much any reasonable quality consumer headphones will do. I use some cheap one from OneOdio, they cost me about $35 and I’ve been using them for 4 years.

Right now, I think one of the best values in a closed back headphone is the Fiio FT1.

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I definitely second the OneOdio. Pretty cool system of cable access, you can flip one end that utilize 3.5mm and another to 1/4”.

I love Fiio I own several pairs of their IEMs, I also own a pair of FT3 350 ohm with the extra long limited Furukawa cable.

For bass practice I fine that the more “fun” tuning V shape is better suited. A few of my favorites are the V-Moda Crossfade and the Sennheiser 280 pro. Both are very good and “fun” headphones great for bass and drums practice

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Maybe your question wasn’t “just” about the headphones!?! But perhaps how to practice quietly while hearing not just your bass, but also sound sources from your PC!?!

The most popular solution, which also will serve you for other uses in the long-term, is to get a digital audio interface (DAI) which is connected to your PC via USB. You can then plug your bass directly into the DAI, where the signal is digitized (and thus available for use on your PC in any way you need). You can “combine” the bass signal with any audio source from your PC and send everything back to the DAI, where you also have your headphones plugged in. The internal audio routing on your PC requires some kind of loopback function provided by your DAI or another piece of software.

With this solution, you can also shape your tone and, not least, record your playing in a digital audio workstation (DAW). Many DAIs will come with a trial or light version of a DAW, which you can try out; or, you can download trials for many others.

Another, more expensive, solution is something like the Boss Waza Air, which is a set of “smart” headphones that connect wirelessly to your bass and also allow you to pipe in audio from your PC/laptop via Bluetooth. It’s very cool and potentially lets you play pretty much “anywhere”, but, ultimately, it’s not as versatile as the first solution.

There are also several alternatives the Boss Waza with similar features and different price points available now.

If it indeed truly were headphones you were interested in, there is an interesting set of headphones that recently came out, and which are very well suited for tracking/recording and mixing, while not being too expensive (around 150 USD, I think):

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Fully aligned with this.

I was also looking for a solution to practice silently (I’m more a night person than morning but it could work for both ;-). )

the Boss Waza Air is really great for this (no need for a cable, no need for a PC…)

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Thanks for your replies!

@MikeC I actually did use the search, but I didn’t really find what I was looking for, or rather the information was spread over so many posts, which makes it difficult to find sth specific.

@joergkutter Yeah, exactly! Plus what exactly makes a headphone good enough to connect with both, so I hear both sounds quietly. So, in case of a DAI, I could just use headphones with only one connection?

I do have a pair of headphones which has both USB and 3.5mm, though when I connect them to my amp, I get pretty loud stativ noise. So thought that maybe it’s a headphone issue, or is it a cable issue instead?

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For the solution I suggested, pretty much any headphone will work. Just connect it to the DAI, adjust the levels and you’re good.

Not sure what is happening here… Are you sure you’re connecting to a headphone out? You might have to give us more details to troubleshoot this :smile:

If you are connecting your bass to your PC, then you must already have some sort of audio interface that will output a good audio signal. In that case, pretty much any set of wired headphones would do. The classic choice is Audio-Technica ATH-M50x, which have been produced in such vast quantities, that you can get them for about 120 US/EU/equivalent. However, there is plenty of cheaper options, like the Soundcore Q30. The only important factor to consider, besides budget, is whether or not the model has a 3.5 mm wired mode, because you really don’t want the noticeable Bluetooth delay messing with your practicing.

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I have the Sennheiser HD 280 Pro and I’m very happy with them. The sound is great and also importantly, after hours of having them on, they don’t press too hard on your ears or make them warm and sweaty.

They come with a 1/4 TRS connector you can unscrew to reveal a 1/8 TRS one.

For a price of around 90€, I think they are extremely good value.

Yeah, I did connect it to the headphone out xD

Hm, so I have Teufel Cage headphones and a CM20B amp. When I turn the amp on, on louder volume there is already a light noise, though it is worse as soon as I connect the headphones with my pc via usb as well.

So, right now I have: bass - amp - (wire) headphones - (usb) pc

Thought the headphones might be the issue as they already have other issues as well or that the double connection can’t work :sweat_smile:

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Hard to say - I have had bad experiences with USB connections to an amp…

Also, if your amp and your PC are not on the same outlet, there could be a ground loop…

I would really suggest you get a DAI - the Focusrite Scarlett Solo (4th gen) is really popular and costs you about 150 dollars, but it is something really useful for playing silently and for recording etc.

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This is absolutely true, pretty common, and you don’t want the common ground to be the computer’s USB interface :rofl:

By far the best path for recording, IMO.

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For silent practice, the pic above shows my simple, travel*, set up. The headphones are AKG K702. They are absolutely excellent and were recommended to me by a friend who is a pro guitarist and producer. I plug them into a Zoom B1four, a cheap as chips multi effects pedal. The pedal has an aux in, that I plug my iPhone into (this could also be an iPad or the audio out from a PC). What’s not shown in the picture is the guitar cable and bass. Using this set up I can silently practice in a hotel room.

I put the * next to travel, as at home, I have a Hotine Ampero that also doubles as an interface. However, I tend not to travel with that as I don’t want it lost or broken by airlines.

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Update: Decided now on using the Focusrite Scarlett Solo, just have to get it to work the next couple of days!

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So, managed to get the Focusrite up and running, though noticed then: still having a headphone issue. Not the one from before, but generally needing one.

The Teufel was just a temporary replacement, for PC I actually have a Razer Kraken. However: it only has a USB connection, therefore extreme latency if I use it as a speaker via software (using Audacity right now)

Got myself a few different headphones to try out, most what here or on the forum was already suggested: the Sennheiser HD 280 PRO (not good for me, sits too tight), the OneOdio, Audio-Technica M50x and the beyerdynamic DT 770.

The issue I’m having now is the sound I get out of them. Compared to my Kraken, it’s so… dull? As if the sound is coming from way back, if that makes sense. And with the Audio one I could barely here the text from a song I used to compare them all.

Is this an issue regarding software, different headphones or because they are monitoring headphones, therefore the sound is generally different?

I don’t know what your problem might be but neutral headphones are often “boring” to many people.

I don’t know which Kraken you ha e but it sounds like the USB?

Here’s the FR graph for the kraken usb:

And here’s the 280 pro:

With that hump boosting the mid/high bass, neutral will sound boring and boosting the low/mid mids, neutral might sound recessed.

If you’re used to “bad” headphones, you need to give your brain time to adjust to good, neutral ones.

Also I don’t recall if you said what software you’re playing through but if you’re not using a cab sim , that will also make it sound more “boring”.

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