Other hobbies?

Thank you for your kind comments.

What drew me to astronomy back in the early 1980’s was the math involved, and there is a lot of it.

My father purchased a cheap telescope from Sears, back then, but could never find any objects that he wanted to observe. To accomplish this a thorough knowledge of what are known as Right Ascension and Declination is needed.

If you were ever to go to a star party viewing venue you would see that amateur’s are spending about 2 hours just setting up and prepping their equipment during daylight hours.

A lot of times I will just go to a dark site and take at least 3-5 minutes of exposures with a 14mm lens.
This will give me at least 8 hours of processing time back at home to identify what I have captured, which is what I really like to do.

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Thank you.

However, I do not feel the additional $3,500 in equipment is worth it for what my interests are within astronomy.

The Andromeda Galaxy is one of the closest to the earth, and can be observed with the naked eye, or binoculars, between the constellations of Pegasus and Cassiopeia. That is one of the reasons the picture looks so clear and well defined. If you took that same equipment and tried to capture most other Deep Sky Objects you would be disappointed. Spend an additional $7K-8K and it may work. :slightly_smiling_face:

All tolled right now I have about $7,000 worth of equipment already and it keeps me satisfied and busy.

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We have just to wait a few billion years for Andromeda to get nearer … and a cell phone camera will do. :smiley:

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Cell phone cameras will probably be good enough in a few decades, regardless of distance… :slight_smile:

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well, it’s not about the camera … it’s about the inverse square law of light propagation. Photons are spread too thin over such distance and as such, there’s not enough energy in them to be detected. That’s the reason for such long exposure times as Celticstar mentioned, so enough photons is catched and imprinted.

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You got that one right.
So many factors to consider.

In one of the pictures I posted showing 6 constellations I shot all together a lot of the stars you see in the shot are not visible to the naked eye.

Regarding using cell phones for this sort of thing, you would need at least the additional expense of a very sturdy tripod for about $200 and an intervalometer at $20, to trigger the shutter, because you can not do it hand held. NOBODY that is serious about astrophotography uses a cell phone that I am aware of.

One thing I never mentioned before is that I always shoot in RAW format giving me individual frames of about 20+Mb in size.

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I used to love buying audio equipment, staring at it, reading about it, buying more and more gear oh wait, I see a trend)

Now I’m lazy and have Sonos everywhere and a turntable for when I actually get up to put music on. So not the same.

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Or teleport?

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Great stuff @sfadams ,
Your son is playing really nicely and I dig the photos👍,
I live about 5 minutes from Melbourne airport and used to get to see the planes all time, they are cool😎
Never bothered taking photos, I have to many other bad habits​:joy::joy:
Cheers Brian

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:rofl: No, sadly nothing as poetic as that. They are introverts and eat anything they can get their paws on at a table for one.

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It’s the size of the lens (aperture) that matters so unless you want a phone with a gigantic lens stuck on it, you’re limited to the “magic” of computational photography :slight_smile:

Have you seen the Dragonfly telephoto array?

https://www.dragonflytelescope.org

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The days as an contractor here was something,

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Yes I have.

They are using a 400mm Canon f2.8 array of 24 units.
This lens runs $14,000 each so you are looking at $336,000US for just the glass

I am of the opinion that glass arrays are not the way to go for Deep Sky Object work.

The ESO observatorys @wellbi links to are more practical to me.

The debate between Reflector, Refractor and Radio telescopes has many ongoing discussions among astronomy scientists.

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I’ll bet it was an experience to remember.

I have been to the Arecibo radio telescope in Peurto Rico. The telescope collapsed 12/1/2020. The U.S. National Science Foundation (NSF) will now de-commissioned it because they do not have the money to rebuild it… Sad. I t has been operating since November 1963.

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Maybe they decided that since they haven’t received a signal of any significance in over 50 years of listening, what’s the point in repairing it. :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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@NipperDog and @Celticstar, another hobby of mine is “UFO and alien” stuff: Area 51, Roswell, MUFON, UFOs, SETI, The Drake equation, etc. etc.

Although it seems probable that there IS life somewhere out there . . . I often wonder if the aliens are smart enough to just ignore us? :yum:

Cheers
Joe

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Arecibo was a working radio telescope, not (primarily) used for SETI :rofl:

It had a long history of radio astronomy discoveries. First radar mapping of most of the solar system, lots of deep space observations. Found the first exoplanet, etc.

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This makes sense Joe

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What do you think about Bob Lazar’s claims?

Ah, that opens up whole new fields of discussion, @wellbi . . . :wink:

Can’t be proven or disproven, but sure makes for great speculation, doesn’t it?

Cheers
Joe

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