Short Scale Jazz Bass? (True JJ and not PJ config)

I’m definitely working through what I like in a Bass now that I’m one year into playing. I’ve tried a Schecter Diamond, Squire Jazz, Sterling Stingray short-scale and an Ibanez Mikro. I’m short with small hands - so I’m loving the short scales. 30" is perfect (the ~28" Mikro actually feels cramped.) Tone-wise I think I’m a J-bass guy.

So now, what are my options for a 30" Jazz.? There are some fairly hard to find Fender 30" Jazz basses out there but even though Fender calls them a “Jazz bass” they have PJ pickup configurations and so it’s not really the same. I see the Ursa 2 Jr from Rondo which is exactly what I’m looking for - but I’ve never heard of them and the price point seems like I’m probably not getting quality there.

Vintage Modified Jaguar? Does it sound substantially similar to a J because of two single coil pickups that look like J-J configuration to me?

And I’m as handy as a snake - so I’m not going down any DIY routes. Any suggestions?

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Here are some to get you started in your search…

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Ashdown makes the Grail they had one on Reverb a few weeks back for 650.00 if would have had a maple fretboard I would have bought it. Public peace is two company’s in one… Makes great bass guitars there custom made. The Elwood by Maruszczyk are awesome. They have a configurator were you can build it before you buy it.
www.public-peace.de

I actually have 2 Elwoods. 30" scale. I also have a Cazpar made by Mensinger there other company it also can have JJ pick up on it. There custom so probably you can have JJ on any model. Not sure if all models come in 30" scale. You can email Adrian. I have a distributor I used her in the states and he can get you a better deal. I have his email. :+1:

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On Reverb these basses come from Japan look very much like Mustang basses. Search Atelier Z baby Z 4J. There a little expensive made in Japan. I actually saw there basses at the NAMM show 2 years ago . Great quality bass guitars. Yeah right you were at the NAMM show.
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Chowny makes the SWB-1 bass Scott Whitley bass also 30" JJ with a slant. Active or passive models. I only play 30" scale in my old age.

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Atelier Z are very nice, high midrange to high end basses. But not cheap :slight_smile:

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Thanks so much. This is exactly the advice I was looking for; a bunch of suggestions, brands and makers I’ve never heard of and aren’t readily “google-able” because they get lost among the much larger volume makers.

That Elwood with the maple fretboard in burst looks pretty awesome. So that’s where I’ll start.

We need some kind of short scale afficionado badge so we can find and get advice from each other!

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OK - so I’ve never seen a configurator even remotely as comprehensive as Maruszczyk at Custom Shop | Public Peace Thanks @BigAl !

I’m guessing other custom manufacturer’s have similar options, but Marusszczyk lays it all out - the math says there must be 100,000+ possible combinations. And now it’s just 3 measly G’s for an absolutely custom 30" Jazz bass. (All kidding aside, I’m just glad to know that when the time comes I’ll be able to get exactly what I want in design, hardware, electronics and aesthetics - and although ~$3000 isn’t pocket change it’s actually less than I thought a virtually 100% custom would run.)

So here’s the dream:

1 x Elwood L

Base Price € 1,290.00
Type: Righthand
Number of Strings: 4-String
Scale Length: Short Scale 30"
Number of Frets: 22 Frets
Body Wood: Alder
Top Wood: Same as body
Color Type: Natural
Body Finish: Gloss
Pickguard: 3ply White Pearl € 30.00
Neck Wood: Hard Rock Maple
Neck Finish: Matte
Neck Profile: Modern C
Nut Width: 40mm
Carbon Rods: Yes € 50.00
Fingerboard Wood: Maple
Fretted / Fretless: Fretted
Side Dots: Super Blue 4mm € 40.00
Fingerboard Inlays: Block Inlays € 50.00
Block Inlays: Mother of Pearl € 100.00
Fingerboard Binding: Black € 40.00
Fingerboard Radius: 14’’
Headstock Type: Hard Rock Maple
Headstock Finish: Matte
Headstock Logo: White
Nut: White
Pickup Combination: Single Coil Set
Manufacturer: Nordstrand
Pickup Finish: Black
Neck Pickup: Nordstrand BJB4 ‘Clean & Clear’ € 40.00
Bridge Pickup: Nordstrand BJB4 ‘Clean & Clear’ € 40.00
Electronics Type: Active 4-band
Active 4-band: Noll TCM 4 XM (B2082) € 190.00
Hardware Color: Chrome
Bridge Spacing: 19mm
Bridge Type: Hipshot B-Style (Aluminum) € 120.00
Knobs Type: ETS € 40.00
Tuner Type: Hipshot Ultralite Y-Style 3/8 € 120.00
Bass Xtender: Hipshot Ultralite Y-Style 3/8 € 100.00
Security Locks: Dunlop Dual Design Straplok € 30.00
String Type: Nickel
Nickel Strings: M4DN
Gigbag/Suitcase: Nylon Gigbags
Nylon Gigbags: Standard GBBS € 90.00
Your T-shirt Size: L
Total € 2,370.00
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Looks really nice, Ken @KenKnight . . . :slight_smile:

Are you going to order it, or are you just putting it on your list for now?

Cheers
Joe

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@Jazzbass19 Definitely just on the list! But realistically on the list - now that I know that 30" custom J-Basses are out there without much trouble to get them, I’m almost certain to get there eventually.

For now, I’d rather slowly sink that same amount into in-person lessons over the next year or two (now that we can all find vaccinated instructors). Maybe $30 for the instructor and $30 for the “short-jazz piggy bank” every few weeks. Then at some point I can reward myself for the hard work. When someone can say to me something like, “lets do a medium tempo blues in C minor” - and I can reliably pull out a reasonable walking bass line to go with it - that’s when I pull the trigger!

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Cliff Bordwell make one awesome handcrafted bass for around same price or less. I have a custom S bass from him. If you message me I’ll give you a distributor for public peace here in the states and he’ll save a couple hundred dollars.

Only thing about Cliff there about 1 year waiting time till you get your bass. He can only do so many basses a year. He’s a one man show. Super cool dude to talk about your bass.

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Check out the Sandberg configurator… Their short-scale is called the California V Lionel. It’s a P-Bass pickup though.

https://configurator.sandberg-guitars.de/

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Doesn’t look like JJ is an option in 30". Their configurator has a scale option - but you can’t actually use it. It’s 30" for that Lionel and 34" for everything else. You can’t actually customize scale.

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Yeah, that’s why I said it was just a P-Bass pickup. Nice basses though. Wasn’t sure how sold you were on JJ. I have JJ, but am open to all pickup configs really as I feel (personally) that it only matters a lot for slap (better on JJ) which is a style I don’t play. We all will probably have different opinions on this though. If you want a JJ then you should get one for sure.