Should I shoot my new bass? (Modding the Harley Benton MV-4MSB)

Yeah, I think all languages have stuff like that at some point.

I’m finding German to be interesting to learn, although I do wish I could find a more literal translation app as it would make it easier when I’m trying to remember how to structure sentences. For instance it’s not ‘My birthday is in March’ it’s ‘I have a birthday in March.’ It’s a subtle difference that makes a difference when trying to remember the right words.

I’m mostly here for the side chatter and to cheer you on :wink: I wouldn’t know a pot from a kettle when it comes to basses and all the shaft talk just lets me giggle quietly in the corner.

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We are in the sex, drugs and rock’n roll business after all - and this thread has it all :slight_smile:

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This thread has made me decide that when I buy new pickups for my 300, I’ll be taking them to a local luthier to install them. Correctly. I may even reach out and set it up before I buy the pickups to make sure I’m not doing something dumb.

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Honestly, installing the EMG GZR is really easy. Also, the set has everything you need, except knobs. You’ll need 6mm knobs for the EMGs.

The DiMarzios were harder (for me), but this was due to lack of soldering knowhow and some mistake in connecting / shortcutting with the copper foil.
When installing the DiMarzios yesterday for the 2nd time (with the CTS pots), it went like a breaze. So it’s mostly experience … and reading the manual properly :slight_smile:

You could try to install the pickups yourself first and go to a local luthier only if that fails.

Setting up a bass is really really really easy!

I can set my bass(es) up fine. I haven’t soldered in 30 years. As far as ease goes… I’ve read this thread since it was new so, I’m when I buy the DiMarzio DP127’s I’m planning on (I want them loud and hot), I’ll be taking them to someone that knows how to do it rather messing up my almost antique Yamaha. If it was the Gretsch or my TRBX 174, I’d probably give it a go. Not my BB300 though.

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I understand!

Do not underestimate the GZRs. I find both very “hot”, but I tend to prefer the GZR more and more.
In fact I regret that I installed the DiMarzio in my sofa bass (being my main bass) and not in my park bass.
But I’m to tired to exchange them (for now).

Maybe try to listen to both of them before deciding??!

@Al1885 might have to say some wise words about EMG?!

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Maybe, and I’ll gladly listen. I’ve done the reading reviews and listening to Youtube videos but folks like Al and some of the others here who do / have installed after market pickups before are going to know a lot better than me and my ability to research do. My end goal is to accentuate the stereotypical post punk P bass sound. I’m not going to worry too much about it though until after I buy my 734.

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It’s not necessarily a good thing, unless you

One, like to use Drive pedals or distortion then crank up the gain and the tone will naturally cracked.
Two, have a low output amp

It’s always better to get a harder to drive pickup (volume wise) then you have more range. That’s why 18v system is not twice the volume of 9v, in fact it’s not even louder in most systems. What makes 18v great is the low noise floor and very high overhead. You can push it all the way to the max and it sounds just as awesome and with clarity.

Loud is just a turn of a volume. Hot is awesome for some metal guitar leads but not so much for bass. A good example would be the Imports Sterling SUB series, that’s so hot it makes for very difficult to control and mix.

If you like that tone, Geezer is one of the great option especially for passive pickups. If you like your punk style you’d probably wants to up the attack time and the best way to do that is to increase the magnet diameter. The Seymour Duncan Quater Pounder is a good one it has 1/4” magnets if you want to get even more immediate attack go with Delano PMVC 4 FE/M2.

This video would be a pretty good example for the tone.

The DarkNight P bass has Delano P pickup with Sonar 2 and Sonar xPure buffer running 18v from a single 9v battery.

The Green Fretless has custom EMG pickup and electronics. It has a Prototype PVX( only 2 in existence, I have one and EMG has another in their archives vault) pickup and Custom DIY double JVX pickup and BQS X system preamp.

The American performer mustang bass is stock.

This is the Delano on my Steve Harris and love the Growl even on a mellower Tapewound strings. The video is inspired by @sunDOG although it was a couple of years before we met, :joy:

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@Al1885 you never disappoint with elaborate answers.
Just learned something important about active pickups!

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Please don’t use this thread as an example of how to mod. It’s more of a cautionary tale.

Also, are you sure that you need new pickups in the BB300? Yamaha generally makes great pickups.

The 734’s pickups are outstanding as they are and both Hooky and Jack Bates use them stock, so that’s as legit post-punk as you get :slight_smile:

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Yes I don’t recommend changing pickups on 734. Your 300 maybe

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Absolutly, it’s some kind of failarmy receipt.

Also yeah if you have a decent Yamaha bass, you probably don’t need to change the pickups. Yamaha pickups are very, very good (except on the very cheap instruments)

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Post-punk is different than punk - it’s more characterized by driving basslines often played as lead lines and rich in mids and highs. I don’t think I would recommend a scooped sound like the Quarter Pounders for it.

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If you are looking for a Quarter Pound P, SPB3, I personally prefer the SPB4 Steve Harris pickup. And pair it with with an SJB2 if a PJ. I think that would do better for punk/post punk

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Honestly the DiMarzio Model P is exactly right for it, along with regular punk too, great on the attack and lots of mids

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I agree; just saying if you want an SD pickup that would be a better setup

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My very favorite P pickups for either are the stock ceramics in my SBV800MF. Just so damn good.

I took it as a cautionary tale, that’s why I’m going to let a professional do it for me this time. As far as the 734, I’m not touching those pickups. The pickups / preamp combo are the main reasons I want it. Just the ones on the 300, and that’s only to make it sound like it is, only more (angry and growly).

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This is definitely interesting. Obviously, I’m not familiar with the PostPunk style and tone of basses, I know that punk style tends to prefer definition and growl.

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