Should I shoot my new bass? (Modding the Harley Benton MV-4MSB)

I did look into that!
But I could not find an uncomplicated solution.
For the fretted basses I use the ABM 6240 … and am totally happy! It’s brass, so the zero fret does not sound totally different from the other frets. And I can easily change the string action height, so I can go lower and lower. And if I am too low it’s just a matter of turning the screw…

For the fretless I will use a Graph Tech TUSQ XL PT-3834-00 Bass Nut 4, for the time being.
For fretless, the 0 fret concept makes no sense anyway, as you finger on wood for non-0 frets anyway. A metal fret would sound different, hence the Graph Tech.

You’re obviously right regarding fretless, forgot this key parameter

Congrats for your project , looks fun and insightful - I like the tech side of things and being able to understand how it works … for sure will heavily mod a bass in the future

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It’s really fun to mod a bass!
Not everybody agrees (read the whole thread, if you are in for some torture ^^), and some find it absolute nonsense, especially modding a Harley Benton.

So, if you want to be loved: don’t do it like me … get a proper 2nd hand Fender.
Otherwise, Harley Benton is absolutely perfect for those kind of projects!
I am so happy with this particular Harley Benton ( Harley Benton MV-4MSB), that I got three of them now … and mod them to anything I like!
One of them will become a double Humbucker one day…

PS When I started I knew nothing about anything. It really is learning by doing!

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Coincidently, I have a GZR pickup on order for my fretless short scale.

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That’s good to know! What’s your reasoning behind this choice?

As you might have read above, it’s pure coincidence that the fretless got the EMG GZR.
It’s just a leftover, but I feel a little bad about it, cause this was my “punk” PU … cause of the raw tone, compared to the DP126 … so it’s the opposite of a fretless use case…

Jaco Pastorious is not my thing.

Jack Bruce, who played a short scale fretless in Cream, is.

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100% agreed!

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That’s funny because the DiMarzio Model P might be the most punk P pickup of all :rofl:

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I find the EMG GZR’s tone quite “raw”, compared to the fuller and more sophisticated tone of the DP126.
And I have them both on exactly the same bass model…

Both are cool, but for the “dirty” park playing I prefer the GZR. On the sofa, I play the DP126 by candle light :slight_smile:

That’s not my impression at all. To me, the model P is a very hot and punchy ceramic P pickup, strong in the mids and more rich overall, exactly what you want for punk.

The GZRs are nice sounding but are comparatively more traditional, rounded AlNiCo sound. I wouldn’t describe them as raw. They sound more vintage/traditional than the DiMarzios to me.

But you’re right that I can’t tell what they would like on your hacked Bentons :slight_smile:

FWIW both sound awesome to me but I prefer the DiMarzios for their punchiness.

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So, did you play the both on exactly the same bass model to compare them?

The DP126 are VERY hot! But very sophisticated too, in my opinion…

I’m sure, on a Yamaha this would be totally different … but on a Harley Benton everything is totally strange :slight_smile:

After a lot of back & forth I also prefer the DP126. They are not easy to setup, but very rewarding when done properly…

can’t agree there

true. but the DM P (DP122) does not have so much of a violent edgy raw “ceramic-y” high end grit, really.

Very rock, very metal, and very capable overall for sure. but not so much punk, in my opinion.

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Actually after I posted that I remembered by SBV’s P pickup :rofl:

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So, did you compare it to the EMG GZR? In my opinion, it’s drawn to the dirty side of the force, much more than the DiMarzio…

I don’t have a first hand experience with this pickup.

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Not play but heard, yes. I had the Model P on a Fender P-bass and I have heard the Geezer on one as well. But you’re right that I have only heard them second hand and never owned one.

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No need, in my opinion. I like the GZR very much, but if I would buy (a passive PU) again, I would go for the DiMarzio. It was not love at first sight, but than it really got me!
All my (non stock) PUs sound fine, but I realized that I like active PUs better.

But … those choices are really 1st world problems in the end!

It’s really different, when you cycle through those PUs by playing it, I guess. The songs and the circumstances find the right PU somehow…
(Also it might be very different with a pick!?)

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The best news is they are both great - can’t go wrong with either EMG or the Model P.

I’m currently just too in love with the SBV pickups though; they manage to be both really rich and yet gnarly-capable. At some point I need to find a SBV-J2.

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I will go for double humbuckers as soon as I found a way to route the body :slight_smile: