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Shielding always works!
It still needs to be grounded
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Yeah - tried it grounded to bridge and ungrounded. No change.
Now I have shielded all cavities and grounded everything to one point. It’s dead silent now, so all great!
I think what actually probably happened was that while shielding it you fixed the real problem accidentally, that one of the groundings was loose.
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I tend to agree.
But: EMG is just like lego.
And I checked with the diagram and did not unplug anything except the J pickup.
I did add extra ground from the J PU shielding and the other cavity shielding to one central point that also included bridge ground.
One more thing: on the bass that had the EMG GZR before I had tape around every pot and even the output jack, so it would not shortcut with the shielding.
I left that off on this bass, as it had no shielding to shortcut (just black paint).
With the new copper shielding all over, every piece of blank metal is taped now.
Don’t know if that did the trick, but something did. There is an eerie silence now…
One thing I like about modding: the unforeseen issues … and the fun of having it solved!
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Yeah I think you may have completed a ground circuit with shielding or something 
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(This post is just a reminder for future mods)
Dimensions:
Many knobs:
Fluence-Soapbar-Bass-Install-Guide.pdf (129.0 KB)
Fluence-Soapbar-Bass-Fluence-User-Guide.pdf (175.2 KB)
fluence_electric_guitar_pickup_dimensions_2020.pdf (827.5 KB)
Or:
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Sims? Paging @John_E he has probably the best Sims setup I’ve seen.
I have a set of Fluence at home. I was going to put them on my Chapman MB-1 but I changed my mind the Nordy Zen Blade is doing ok there.
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The idea for the Fishman Fluence came actually from you … and since then it has been simmering in the back of my mind.
And I remembered that you mentioned the Sims a few months ago and that I liked it versatility. They’re passive though.
Currently my preference is Fishman Fluence, also cause I can get those easily in Germany…
The previous post is just a reminder, in case I find a way to route my HB for two humbuckers.
Also I would need to find a way to incorporate 4 knobs and one switch.
That’s a lot of routing & some pickguard redesign…
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If you are going to route the cavity, there’s another good choice and it’s German.
Delano xtender
I have both pickups but not on the same bass and they are beasts.
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Hmmmmmm … it’s … OVAL!!! I am not so much into oval shapes, especially when it’s one big oval and two small ones above it.
Also, the Fishman Fluence a set with all the knobs and electronics - which is great for a noob like me!
Ok, I have installed the LaBella 760FS-S (.105) now.
Of course, not, er, because I ran out of patience and these were lying around, but:
- it should definitely be flatwound, because of possible fretboard damage with roundwounds.
- I wanted to avoid boat paint
- If it’s hard to get a shortscale to “sing” anyway, then I say: I don’t care
- If I don’t like it, I’ll put the flats on one of the other basses and put .95 or .100 roundwounds on it, which are also lying around here.
- ok, I ran out of patience
Impression so far:
- pretty slippery
- I don’t find the sound as “dull” as some people describe it. And it has a certain “crispness” to it that I find really nice.
this is a myth, even Jaco used rounds on fretless
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Yeah, well: Jaco is no reference to me ^^
And: he put some kind of boat paint or epoxy on the fretboard.
I want to feel my wood, unprotected
“In the early 1970s, he acquired a 1962 Fender Jazz bass, which either Jaco acquired already fretless or from which he removed the frets with a butter knife (his recollections varied over the years). Jaco filled in the areas where the frets had been with plastic wood and coated the former fretboard with epoxy”
The Life of Jaco | Jaco Pastorius.
Yes you can make a mark with the round wound strings but prolly after thousands of hours playing flats will do the same kind of damage, that’s a badge of honor. I wish I can play “one” bass so much that it wears the fingerboard down.
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I can always return to rounds.
At the moment I thoroughly enjoy the very new experience of playing flats.
Should have done that earlier!
I was thinking the Delano Quad pickups.
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Ah, I can get those in Germany.
Advantage:
- cheaper than the Fishman Fluence (but the Fluence are a complete set)
- more flexible, as I could wire only three knobs (plus one optional knob or switch)
Disadvantage
- need to think about f#cking wiring
- Are they passive-only? I just rediscovered my love for active pickups!
Do you know them? Can you say more about them? Why these and not the Fishman?
EDIT This is what you can do with it??? WTF? I am absolutely overwhelmed!!!
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yup
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Nohooo, my friend. Don’t “yup” me!
I need more input!
Why get those and not the Fishman? The Fishman are active, well documented and you get everything you need.
I just need to solve the routing challenge, but I’m on it (d@mn you, @Al1885 :-)):
PS Somehow I don’t feel comfortable with modding something if I can’t do everything myself, like routing!