Very nice setup @itsratso,
Love the pedal board and the bongo👍
Cheers Brian
Nice setup @itsratso I’m a fan of Phil Jones gear too. I got a C2 stack at home and I also had the cab-27 piranha cab with the 7" drivers. These sounded a little bit warmer but I still prefer the compact series. Even the C2 has quite some low-end but I think the amp will define your tone the most. My rumble head makes it sounds more like a Fender cab while my PJ head makes it sound very clean and tight. I’m gonna test a GK head soon!
How did you hooked up that Ashdown? I’m kinda guessing parallel since you have 2 outputs on that Ashdown RM 500 EVO head. If I remember correctly the C4 is 400W @ 8ohm. So running a 500W amp will power them with 250W each @ 4ohms. From what I understand it will sound a bit better with a parallel connection, especially if you crank it up. Ideally you prob want a 800W head with those cabs?
I always get a little bit confused about this because if you connect parallel you have a total impedance of 4ohms while in series it will have 16ohms which is a lot more resistance and will most likely end up in lower volume. But I don’t fully understand why the resistance turns to 4ohms if you connect parallel to 8ohms speakers… Sorry for going a bit off-topic here
The series or parallel connection thing has been very confusing to me until well… Now. The reason why it’s so confusing is because so many sources online are confusing/just plain wrong. My manual for the pjb clearly states you can daisy chain the cabinets together IN PARALLEL giving you full power to the cabs. Yet a quick Google search states that daisy chaining gives you a serial connection which greatly robs you of power. So what gives? Well a few minutes ago I found this thread, which explains it:
TL/DR: it is very rare to find any cabs wired with a serial connector any more, they’re almost all parallel. So connect them however you want (after consulting your manual). Every time you add a cab you decrease the ohms. 1 8 ohm cab is 8 ohms. Add another and they are 4 ohms. Add another and you’re at 2.7 ohms, you can use an online ohms cabinet calculator. Most amps only safely go down to 4 ohms, a few do 2. Don’t start a fire onstage. I simply went output one to cab one, output two to cab two because pjb says it sounds a bit better but in the real world with 2 foot cables it probably doesn’t matter. BTW @DaveT here told me all the same things in a thread once.
I’m happy to have seeded the idea. I hear music is about repetition … and variation.
So if I understand this thread correctly then series is kinda rare and only achieved by using a special cable/box. Daisy-chaining or hooking them both up via your amp is always a parallel connection… It actually makes more sense to me if this is the case. Thanks both of you!
Lots of misinformation on the internet tho
Still got a question. If an amp has 2 outputs then you need to connect both cabs to the amp or can you also use one output and daisy-chain the cabs? The total load should be the same in both scenarios.
I’ve checked the manuals but they aren’t really that clear imo. I would say you have to use both connections for parallel since an amp with 2 output usually have an impendance switch that sets the impendance for each output?
the outputs are wired in parallel
That’s the truth.
+1 to @terb and if you use both connectors on cabinets, those are in parallel too. Everything is one big parallel connection unless you make a custom cable for series wiring.
The impedance switch is for the total load (impedance) of everything together, not usually for each output. If you have a specific model number amp, I’ll take a look.
Thanks Dave and Terb! I do understand the whole concept a bit better now. I’m gonna test one of those new GK heads soon. If I’m uncertain I will let you know!
I looked at the labeling on the current GK amp head offerings and understand your question better in that context. They do have a switch setting for “4+4”. It kind of seems like each output is a 4 from just looking at that. It’s still another way of saying two 4 ohm cabinets in parallel, any way you connect them. It puts the amp in 2 ohm mode. The 1200 actually is two discrete channels.
Porta Flex. I just sold them to make room for 2 15’s mesa cabs.
also it’s possible that there are two separate power amps with each a 4 ohm output. it can be useful with a crossover filter like on the old GK RB amps. you can plug a 4x10" into the “treble” amp and a 1x15" into the “bass” amp.
Good catch! I edited my post.
I think the 1200 head is dual channel?
Next to the (4+4) there is also a little label saying 4 or 8. I think in most cases the switch needs to be down and for an 8+4ohms cab combo you prob have to use the switch.
I’m trying out the 500W fusion series atm. Absolutely loving it so far
Those sound great to me.
Ha! Look at that! I’m glad I looked at this thread today. I learned a lot about GK I hadn’t noticed.
Here’s my amp. It doesn’t have any tricks or bells and whistles up it’s sleeve so I thought i’d make it look a bit sexier with a black & white photo
I’d be interested to hear from any other owners of the PF-500 what your thoughts are on the five different frequency settings. To my ears there is hardly any difference
if it’s like on the SVT, the frequency rotoswitch only works when the mids are not set to middle. personnaly on the SVT I prefer the 3rd frequency.
Thanks, I’ll play around with that but I do normally have the mids scooped a bit