SOLVED: Recording a dry signal from bass while listening to background track in Boss Katana GO

I like RØDE a lot, but it’s more expensive than the AMS-22.

Group pressure forces me to get the AMS-22, IF I get a cheap/small/good/latency-free Boombox like speaker too.
Gonna sell my Spark GO and Spark MINI and replace that with a Boombox + mobile DAI (& Boss Katana GO) for travel & park.

Unfortunately my JBL Charge 2+ turns out to be s#cky s#cky too, both in terms of bass and (worse) latency!

spoiler:

For bass, you’re gonna get to pick two of those, three tops. And it won’t contain “cheap and good.”

Small speakers for bass are tricky. Closest I can think of under 5" is PJB.

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Why not simply keep a Spark ? it seems not bad for this use

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Both Sparks have severe latency issues. I understand that for bluetooth … but it’s also an issue with USB and line-in.

So it cannot be used for live recording or playing (if I want to listen and/or record both bass and background track).

Size- & weight-wise, my new solution should not exceed the Spark Mini (ca 1.5kg).
I’d rather go for less than 1kg and a smaller size (like my JBL Charge 2+).

So that rules out a 5" speaker, I guess.

Again, mobility is key (think: luggage restriction & planes). And it does not need to be loud. Just for me and my girlfriend listening to it in the park or a sunny terrace in the south of France…

I use the Spark Go to jam along to songs / drum beats on my deck and it’s just great.

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You’re not recording, right? Google “Spark GO latency”. I am not alone…

I record in my DAW on my Mac.

The Spark Go is designed for jamming along to. It’s small, sounds great for its size and has a long rechargeable battery life.

But recording myself with it outside? No. Why would I do that when GarageBand is an awesome free DAW.

Maybe you’re expecting too much out of one thing?

Record at home then jam outside and work on your timing with a drum app.

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This is good advice.

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No … that’s why I want to get rid of it. It was very good for what it was.
But it’s beem replaced by the much better Boss Katana Go. Now I just need a small mobile speaker that allows me to play without head phones … quality-wise it should be as good or better than the Spark Mini.
As much as I loved the Spark GO … the bass was veeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyyy thin…

PS I just experimented with the Boss Katana GO as an audio interface. Don’t know why, but sometimes it works exactly like I want (so I don’t need an audio interface like the AMS-22), and sometimes it does not work properly. As an audio interface it’s not perfect (48KHz and the need for using the tuning trick for a dry recording). But it’s good enough for a cover…

48kHz is enough for pro recording. Its Nyquist frequency is (obviously) 24kHz, still well above the human hearing range. It’s fine.

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Yeah, it’s super advise. But not my use case. I want to record outside, as I spent most of my time in the park currently.

Hamburg has about 5 sunny days per year. Maybe more, with the non-human made climate change going on!? :slight_smile:
I need to take advantage of that!

Cool!
Question: I read somewehere that 96KHz/24bit recordings are better in terms of (lack of) overdrive distortions. Is that true?

You are talking about a very advanced topic that you do not need to worry about at all when recording bass.

Sampling theory dictates the maximum possible audio frequency to accurately record for any given sampling frequency. For 48kHz sampling rate, this is a 24kHz signal. The maximum frequency the average human can discern is 20kHz. You are fine recording at 48. 96 would be 2x oversampled, which is useful for some things but not recording dry bass.

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when you’ll have chosen the gear to replace your Sparks, those sunny days will be finished. somewhat you have one year to make your choice

:smiling_face_with_tear:

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365 days in a year minus 5 sunny days = 360 non sunny days to be inside recording at home.

The Spark Go is tiny. Ridiculously small and yet fantastic. If you play at low volume and have it next to you it’s great.

I grew up in the 1970s. If you could show the childhood me the things I have now I’d be blown away.

You are falling into the classic modern life trap of

“Everything is amazing and nobody is happy”

If you are serious about recording then doing it in the park may not get you the best results.

Also if I’m in the park enjoying my ice cream I don’t want to listen to somebody’s shitty bass noodling. I want to hear the birds and enjoy the trees.

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Yeah, that was before climate change!
I’m planning to get a diesel car and a fire place to produce as much CO2 as possible, thus extending the time I can spend in the park substantially.
And if the ocean rises a little more, I might have a beach in walking distance soon!

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Here we say “Nothing is amazing but everybody is happy!” :slight_smile:

You really do see me!

Anyway, yesterday I was playing in the park (using headphones) and in listening distance there was:

  • someone playing classical guitar (quite beautifully)
  • somebody with a boombox listening to hiphop
  • Some good looking bikini girls listening to very bad EDM
  • Somebody behind the bushes listening to reggae (not really reggae, something like that)
  • children singing “Baby Shark Dance” … I woke up to that earworm this morning!

It is the most diverse park I know - love it! And I guess my sh#tty bass playing would add some spice to the mix ^^

That truly sounds like hell.

This is 2 mins from my front door.

Dogs are great. People, not so much.


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you’re good to learn a bass line for Baby Shark :smiley: quite fun to play actually

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Hahaha! Hamburg totally s#cks!!!
Don’t like cities at all, but I am here for my girlfriend (and cause my profession cannot be done in the bush).

But the park is great. It is a melting pot of different cultures, people of all ages and I have seen at least seven different sexes and even more humanoid species…

If you live in the city - take advantage of everything it can give you!

But I would also rather live next to a small village in the south of France … God’s own country!