State of Metal today

it’s been done

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This is the first video of Poppy I really liked :slight_smile:

Babymetal was scheduled to open for Motorhead but Lemmy passed sadly.

Except the voices, an AI song for you

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My AI blocked your AI :slight_smile:

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Better for everyone, really. No more transposing to weird keys!

Hahaha!

Yeah, and “as they don’t play instruments” also means: no obnoxious guitar players :slight_smile:
Slowly I’m getting convinced that this development is great! AI for all!

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I like some of Beato’s videos, like those “why this song is so great”, and the interviews. I watched a video in which he was ranting about how the music business is like, and how many big starts don’t write their music. It was interesting.

The impression I get is that he is very nostalgic about the past, as we all normally get after a certain age. Some keep living in the past, some others are able to appreciate the good things there are still around. Sometimes by only longing for the past, we might not get to know good things from the young generations from today.

He also misses the time before music streaming services, and it’s true in the 80s bands had an easier time getting to make albums and get famous than today. Now algorithms define who gets listened to, and the number of followers a band has on social media will pretty much seal the fate of the band. Young artists struggle a lot to get anywhere.

I don’t watch Beato’s ranting videos. He has a lot of click bait type videos to get more views. Those videos are often a waste of time. It is probably a side effect of making a living from YouTube. YouTube forces the creator to publish more and more, and short videos, and it is the reason why there is so much repetition and click bait thumbnail pictures and dramatic titles.

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That’s a good looking drummer! :smiling_face_with_sunglasses: :sign_of_the_horns: :robot:

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Maybe this is not true.

I am involved in some local music production now, just on amateur level, and I was astonished that a) it’s very easy to get a gig and b) it’s truly easy to distribute your tracks (via DistroKids for streaming and download purchases).
Also, (self-) promotion via YouTube, Insta etc is easy … if anybody I know would do it properly (which they don’t).

It’s not the same as in the old days, but I knew quite a few bands in the 80s that could not get any gigs, but worse: they could not get any contract with a studio.
Ok, most of them s#cked, but some of them were really great and would have stood the test of time.

I am not a streaming fan myself (I rip media or purchase flacs), but in terms of getting music to fans it’s great nowadays.

Don’t expect to get rich & famous soon though…

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ironically beato is from here (fairport).

the thing with beato is that the lens he sees the music world with is middle-aged white guy. but to be fair, he is a middle aged white guy so that tracks. the problem is that he seemingly is unwilling/unable to use any other lenses.

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I’m going to disagree with this. The Dutchman covered a lot of it, but now anyone has pretty good recording setups available in their homes. And the ability to self-distribute music that they record at home.

Back in the 80s and 90s, if you wanted something recorded well, you had to find a recording studio, rent it (probably at like 3 in the morning because that’s all they would let unknown artists use), and pay someone who actually knew how to use the recording equipment to do it. And you were at the mercy of what that person decided your mix should be.

And distribution was not happening for that recording beyond you handing a few copies of the tape (or CD in the 90s) to your friends. Nobody else was likely to hear it.

Nowadays, making a good recording and having it heard outside your close friends and family is easily available to most people. The barrier to it is very low, which means there is a lot more music being released today than ever before. Problem with all these “there is no new music anymore” videos is that they are coming from people who won’t look beyond the stuff at the top of the major labels PR releases.

Also, for all those classic songs we remember from the 60s, 70s, 80s, etc. there was a ton of stuff that got a few plays on the radio and disappeared from the memory of 99.9% of people. The reason why your classic rock stations seem to play the same 50 songs over and over is because those were the best ones (or at least best promoted) from their era.

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That’s true about the algorithms, but before that all the choices about what we heard were made by label executives, editors at MTV or IHeartRadio/Clear Channel or whatever. One thing I love about the streaming era is that every little band with 1,000 followers on Tik Tok or YouTube can easily distribute their music now. I do think that has lowered the bar SIGNIFICANTLY though, there’s a lot more dog shit out there than ever before, just because it’s so easy to DIY. On the upside, you can find bands like Austin and the Inlaws or Dr. Infinity that are essentially regional bar bands, but they still show up on Spotify or Deezer (two of my favorite bands by the way, both amazing, but not metal)

Edit: Also, I can’t do Beato, he just seems like someone’s out of touch dad.

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Funny story: when I was hitchiking through Hungary in ‘86, I met some Budapest punks and stayed with them for a while.
For reasons beyond me I had purchased an antique saxophone in Budapest (which I sold as soon as I came to Germany … for a very good price. I hate saxophones!), and of course, they had a band too.

So they said: “Cool, you have an instrument - play!”

I did not know how to get a tone of that instrument initially, any tone. I remember that you have to do strange things with your lips. Also, it has a lot of keys and valves and WTFs.
Finally I could make some noise (not music), terrible noise, free jazz noise, but that was absolutely perfect for them. I really did not get it!

We recorded an album … on cassette tape. It was widely distributed in the East European countries (well “widely” means: among the punk scene) … I remember that that one East German girl (that I fancied) took a tape home, and she told me that the whole music scene lives from copies of copies of copies.

It’s a nice thought that somewhere there might still be tapes of recordings with me making terrible noise on some hardcore punk. Thinking of it, it took me almost 40 years to realise: it’s quite cool (as of today).

Lesson: you could record and even distribute with almost no means. But that only works for punk!

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The state of metal today…

I still get distressed that iron and some steels oxidise so quickly. That said, oxidised steel cladding, typically referred to corten steel is specifically engineered to develop a stable, rust-like protective layer over time. This patina prevents further corrosion, and looks pretty cool in the right architectural context.

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It’s such bait.
I’ve just deleted two posts responding to the inanity of this video.
I cannot be baited.
I shall not be.

…that guy…

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He reminds me of a character Mike Judge would write for a mockumentary making fun of the various generations; like Silicon Valley, but about Boomers vs GenZ. He just nails so many stereotypes so well.

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LOL

Yes.

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Friends, I have been in mourning for Metal since 1991 and the release of the black album.

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I’ve not really ever paid attention to those metal is dead videos. It might change from old school thrash and hard-core to something completely different like Sleep Token, Avatar, Ghost and Baby Metal, but it will never die.

There are far too many fans and artist that love it. I mean look at Yungblood, that guy killed it at the Ozzy Tribute. Until then I would hardly call him metal.

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