State of Metal today

Back in Covid times Yungblud did a song Obey with Bring me the Horizon on their Post Human Survival album. The album also had collabs with the Nova Twins, Babymetal and Amy Lee but it really shines in spotlighting new artists in the genre

Lot happening in metal

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Yeah I think it’s a bit of a stretch. And hey, Maiden is still touring, gonna try to see them next year with Megadeth and Anthrax opening. Don’t care if they’re 100 years old and Nicko retired from live drumming, I’m still showing up

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I went to a Halloween show where a band did an absolutely killer Iron Maiden set.
Made me realize that - no matter how old they are - that show would be spectacular.

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It’s a well-known fact that Steve Harris’ index and middle fingers have been touched by god. They’ll be still plucking in the grave

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“Tin-eared, graph-paper-brained
accountants instead of music fans
call all the shots at giant record companies now.
The lowest common denominator rules.”
-Dead Kennedys “MTV Get Off the Air” (1986-ish?)

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Now it’s algorithms!

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It is so ridiculously much better now for music production than it was in the ‘80s that any discussion comparing the two is sophistry at best

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But is this a relevant argument?

Take Joy Division - you might know them?!?!
Did they happen cause of “music production” or cause of a certain kind of spirit and subculture that existed at that time in that place with those people?

Having better tools does not lead to better art. It just makes it easier to design…

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Ubiquitous availability of better tools democratizes the gatekeeping aspect away and absolutely has a strong positive effect.

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True! I agree 100%. Why is it then that we don’t see anything like Joy Division happening? Or is somebody like Poppy comparable to Joy Division? Really?

(Please reread “So This is Permanence: Joy Division Lyrics and Notebooks”, before answering!)

We’ve discussed this before. The bands are happening, more now than ever. What you are pining after is the next big game changing scene. Those are happening too, you just don’t like them.

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In fact, I stumbled into a very interesting scene, which is based on a genre I don’t like (“Deutsch Rap”, but not what you hear in local charts) and does use “new” technology and new distribution models.

I wouldn’t say that they are on Joy Division level, but I do appreciate the raw energy and honest heartfelt dark poetry behind it.
It’s not driven by image (mostly), or trying to be an artificial musical chameleon, or having tiktok compatible videos, shows and shallow blablabla statements (well, sometimes, especially when they talk about “empowerment” and use pathetic & empty youth lingo) … it’s coming from the street, the heart, it’s based within an (at least to me, beforehand) invisible subculture of “neurodiverse”, genderfluid, leftist, poor and very lost 20 somethings. Often they had a not so great youth, lived on the street and/or were institutionalized. For most, legal and illegal drugs is what makes them go on (and go down)…
They have nothing, but make music, paint, make tattoos, sculptures, fashion and all kinds of stuff I don’t get.
They express severe personal pain and anti-establishment political statements in any way they can.

In other words: the perfect scene to make great art! I love it.

They gig in spots like the “Rote Flora”, an infamous Antifa location I visited recently for the first time (after having lived for more than 10 years right around the corner) … and the atmosphere is very much like in the movie “24 hour party people”, you know, when Sex Pistols were on stage.

It’s all very exciting, but I think nobody will ever hear from them, as they choose to remain almost anonymous (I made some photos for a track and will participate in the production of a music video. They don’t want to be recognisable … WTF?)

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Yep. These things are still happening, the difference is anyone can be their own label, not just a select few.

And most bands will make very little money and have to support themselves live.

In other words, plus ca change…

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Ah, another “the kids these days” rant. See it in motorcycle forums all the time. Damn youngsters don’t appreciate how we did it back in our day, and their way is fake and ruining the sport.

Things change. Everything’s fine. Metal ain’t going anywhere.

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That’s how WE did it :slight_smile:

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In this picture, you’re the piano, I assume?

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I would be the guy on the right, yeah. What else? :slight_smile:

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Butt ass naked but wears boots with knee protectors, I’d say there were priority issues there somewhere.

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The boots might be a fashion statement? Also, it looks like camo, so he’s probably a marine?

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:rofl: