Well today was supposed to be a NBD

Ordered a Fender American Professional II P bass in white with the tortoise shell pick guard and it came to my guitar center today. Well needless to say I am very disappointed in this “new” instrument that cost almost $1600 on SALE mind you.

  1. The truss rod nut was completely stripped from the factory
  2. The nut was cracked by the D and G strings
  3. The setup from the factory was atrocious
  4. You could fit a credit card in the neck slot
  5. Screws holding the pick guard were off kilter, as if the holes weren’t lined up with the screw holes

Needless to say I returned it and I will stick to my cheap squire, which has arguably much better quality control than that American fender.


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And the neck pocket, this was AFTER the guitar center repairs guy tightened the screws

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that’s… not good :frowning:

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Right? Crazy that my $400 squire has better QC than an American made bass that’s almost 5 times the cost of the squire

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Wow. They had you Take a bath there. Hard to accept that, and I’m glad you didn’t!

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Fender… :face_with_spiral_eyes:

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Yikes :grimacing:

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Ahh, Fender.

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FFS… I visited a music shop yesterday to spy on toys… and was talking to a bassist I know there that said “Avoid Fender for the time being, especially 5 strings”

He told me so many things that @tonyd89 described.

He even mentioned that some American fenders have the truss rod snapped before they reach them… nearly half of their stock in the past 6 months was sent back. (They don’t have much also)

Hope you have better luck on your next purchase!

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I’ve owned two recent (2022) MIJ Fenders that were stellar, but of course they were because they were almost assuredly made by Fujigen and not Fender.

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I just purchased a new Fender American Pro II in White last weekend (see show us your bass 2) and thankfully the shop I purchased from does a full set up on all guitars and basses they get in, and send back everything that doesn’t have the right quality to begin with, which they claim is about 10% of what they get in.

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@jefflangford67 thats good, the shop I was at had a few USA made teles that were pretty cheap feeling.

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From what I read around here, I’m not gonna buy a Fender anytime soon :sweat_smile:

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Maybe check out some of the US made G&L’s? They’re similar enough to the Fender’s to scratch that itch but they likely have better QC. Price wise, they’re in the same ballpark.

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At least not “sight unseen”!!

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I look at them as being basically the Ford Motor Company of musical instruments. Sometimes a F-150 is the right answer. But for me, it usually isn’t. Sometimes they make good stuff. Sometimes they make lemons.

It’s not super surprising that each country’s guitar manufacturing mirrors, quality-wise, its other manufacturing. It’s why Japan ate Fender and Gibson’s lunch in the lawsuit era; in the '70s and '80s Japan was making inexpensive high quality instruments, while the US was busy making highly priced junk, exactly like the auto industry.

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I’d read enough comments on various message boards to know I shouldn’t just order something to be delivered to me personally, and at least have it delivered to a shop like @tonyd89, and I wanted to try a few options. Thankfully there a guitar shop up in Portland OR that had an excellent selection of in stock basses to try, and like I said they go through each guitar before keeping it. I’d visited my local GC a few times here in Eugene and I could hardly get anyone to actually even acknowledge my presence so I decided I’d rather drive 2hrs each way and not give GC Eugene my business.

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I bought 3 Sandberg online. No issues with them :person_shrugging:t3:

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Yikes! Where’s the pride in the craftsmanship.

I’m happy to report that my 2019 American Pro II P bass and bought in 2020 of the same model both are good. From 21-23 most are hit or miss.

Several pass though my hands and I was not impressed. Did you check the frets if they were sprouting?

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Yeah! That’s either Indonesia or Germany both have stellar reputations.

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