What are you struggling with?

Makes me see how much my fingers are flying off and when everyone else seems to be effortlessly playing.

Right there with you, I’ve been playing for several months and “flying fingers” is still the 1 major issue of fretting technique that is refusing to fall into place for me. Things like LH thumb position, fret pressure, and muting all naturally developed to where I don’t have to think about them anymore, but I’m probably going to need to take up some specific exercises to keep my fingers from flying off the fretboard so much.

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I don’t know about everyone else, but I definitely can’t play this as effortlessly as Gio is making it appear!

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Hey Mike, @Mike_NL,
It’s easy when your a professional player😎 oh and a teacher of bass as @Gio is.
It just takes practice and time and we will all get to Gino’s level👍
Cheers Brian

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It’s pretty maddening to just keep trying this 1000 times even with a great video and my fingers just do not do what I want. Fundamentally I am doing something wrong with too much pressure with the fingers that are not playing the note or something. His hands just float above the strings but yet don’t mute the wrong string and can play the right note. I know it takes practice but even at one note at a time I can’t seem to do it just once.

I feel like I have to unlearn 8 months of lessons in order to do this right as I might have used bad habits to play 4 fingers.

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I get it!
I would take a break from this and start playing country songs and bluegrass songs.
The bass lines are always root and fifth… the same fingering and pattern as the first 2 notes in Billy Jean. If you can find other musical ways to work on that pattern and technique without it always relating to this Cruel Mistress (thanks for that @eric.kiser) it will be way more fun to work on the technique, you’ll have more width and breadth to practice it, and you will get to have success along the way instead of staring down the twin barrels (Billy & Jean) of doom.

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@lusecannon What you’re dealing with is what we’ve all gone through. Maybe this will help… Billie Jean is a Wicked Mistress

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16th note feel is messing with my head… Like physically.

I’m so used to bobbing my head to the quarter notes, and plucking in synch with my head (when it’s either up or down), that these displaced 16th notes completely throw me off. I have to pluck when my head is halfway between up and down, and I just can’t. :roll_eyes:

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struggling with EMI noise, with the single coil pickup I have on the Grab’ !

I refuse to use a noise gate (a bit ridiculous for my studio use), but in a live/concert situation it would be useful …

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I edited the original post here… Billie Jean is a Wicked Mistress
To include a link to @Gio’s advice and video in this thread for any other new folks that need it.

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I’d say that as I’m just starting out, I’m having trouble w consistency of my plucking and muting. I am trying my best to pluck across the string like Josh says, but I still notice a slightly different sound off of my index finger vs. my middle. Getting a smooth clean sound everytime is pretty difficult. Any practice tips?

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Keep going - index/middle/index/middle/index/middle… (maybe don’t even fret a note; just mute the string and get a feel for the two fingers plucking. And don’t practice it on the E string, but rather on the A or D string and let your fingers “fall” onto the next string as you pluck - it is good to get that feedback and you won’t get that on the E string…

Then, after a couple of hours of this, start working in some accents :grin::wink:

Seriously, though, just keep at it… slow and steady!

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Best advice :love_you_gesture:

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I’m coming back to bass after missing a few months due to starting back at school. Needless to say, I’m struggling with pretty much everything.

I’m thinking of trying to do a module a day until I catch back up to the song that won’t be named, and then doing things at a more reasonable pace. Does that seem a bit ambitious?

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Sounds like a good plan to me. Just remember, this is supposed to be fun. :+1:

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struggling to find this DiMarzio DP296N Relentless pickup … maybe it’s too recent to be available in France ? :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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I found them in a Norwegian (!) store:
https://evenstadmusikk.no/dimarzio/1143726/dimarzio-dp296n-pickup-bas-billy-sheehan-relentless-middle-nickel-bass-pickups
Ah, no… it says they are temporarily sold out…

I am sure they would ship to France, though :smile:

Well, they are fairly new and seem to be sold out even in the US. Gotta be patient :person_in_lotus_position:‍♂

yeah, I guess I have to wait … I’m not in a hurry at all anyway, I’m considering this pickup for my Ibanez Jet King when I’ll put this thing into the “project bass” category :grin: probably more a 2022 than a 2021 project !

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The scales being discussed here are diatonic. There are other scales like the blues scale, Gypsy scale etc…and even more interesting is the chromatic scale. (Play every note in order until You get to root more again, including #/b).

If you play a “wrong” note in a diatonic scale, say C Major, that note is likely a chromatic one (not in the scale). This then gets into resonance and dissonance. 3rds and 5ths tend to be the most resonant notes, the rest in the scale are varying levels of dissonant, and then the chromatic notes are the most dissonant (can create tension or sound “sour” depending on use). It’s all crazy stuff. Theory is a deep rabbit-hole for sure.

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Timing!

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