What's the deal with effects and pedals? (Also: sound in general)

This is great. This booster would be my first choice if I decided to go back DG.

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i agree itā€™s cool. iā€™m just surprised they did it.

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So itā€™s a compressor, preamp, EQ, and cabsim?

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and di. yeah kind of a one box solution, minus effects. the only thing i donā€™t like is that it is hardly what i would call a hyper luminal, it really has little of the features of that pedal that i can tell. (maybe through the app?) more of just a generic DG compressor.

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I understand the practicality, but I donā€™t like menu diving on my phone for a pedal. Getting sort of close to ā€œwhy arenā€™t I just doing this on a laptop and pluginā€ for me.

I also really want a helix lt. As a poet famously said:
ā€œDo I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)ā€

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yeah, but it isnā€™t really like your tapping away madly onstage on an app or anything. most of the time itā€™s a set a few presets in your living room and your done type of thing.

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Iā€™ve begun to appreciate things I can set with my PC or phone as bending is a royal PITA of late. Getting sorta old sucks.

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Bending is never fun! Thank goodness for those pedals/multiFX that have snapshots!

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i get winded :worried:

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Iā€™m with you on this @John_E My logic was it has to be able to sit on my desktop so I can see / reach it (built as a pedal board / powered as such)

and has to a small enough pedal board to sit on my bass amp so I donā€™t have to bend down to select another pedal in the HX One when we change songs.

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Good one, cause the next ā€œissueā€ after bending is squinting at the tiny screen or knob positions :face_with_spiral_eyes: :rofl:

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Can an HX Stomp be considered a one and done purchase for effects? I donā€™t have any pedals at the moment as I havenā€™t had a need for them yet. Iā€™m pretty interested in adding/using effects but I donā€™t want a ton of pedals. I want minimalism, simplicity, and function. I know the stomp is more expensive than maybe some similar options but I donā€™t want something Iā€™d feel the need to upgrade and have to sell things to get something better later.

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I had the Stomp. Very powerful but a huge learning curve. I spent so many hours learning how to use it.

I now have the HX One as a single pedal with 250 effects. But only one at a time, so a much simpler unit.

If I were starting out Iā€™d take a hard look at the new Boss multi bass unit.

No menu diving. Looks pretty intuitive.

In fact I may still buy it!

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Thanks! Iā€™ll look into this

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+1 to this. I thought this wouldnā€™t matter to me but man o man it does.

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any of the nicer multi-effects could easily be this. even the lower end ones like a zoom or joyo could if you are happy with the sound.

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Yep it does! The menu diving didnt bother me that much.

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I realize I may be necroing an old thread here, but Iā€™m wondering why that is, or what the reasoning is behind it? (putting pedals before the amp instead of using the effects send/return)

Iā€™ve been using the effects send/return on my Rumble 100 with the few pedals I have. Just wondering what the nuances are here and if Iā€™m maybe doing something wrong or suboptimal.

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There are more knowledgeable buzzers in here who know much more about this topic, but roughly:

  • your amp consists of a pre-amp stage (including an EQ section) and a power amp stage
  • the pre-amp (together with the EQ) will color and ā€œmakeā€ your tone while the power amp will bring up in volume whatever signal you feed it without adding or subtracting anything (ideally)
  • if you want your effects to work on an already shaped signal, put them in the effects loop (where they bypass the pre-amp)
  • if you want your effects to be further affected by the pre-amp, put them before the pre-amp
  • while there are no rules, certain types of effects (especially modulation effects) seem to work better after the preamp (i.e., in the effects loop), as the overall results otherwise can get quite ā€œmuddyā€. But, at the end of the day, itā€™s your call :smile:
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Thanks! This is very helpful.

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