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Your iPad is probably drunk, then! 
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The little stupid spell checker is on some serious drugs, that’s for sure. Half the time, I am typing a paragraph, I go back to re-read / check it, and it looks like another language. Other times it’s done in bullet point / list styles. That spelling checker is a lush for sure.
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Question for those who use the Zoom in “stomp mode”, such as @howard…
Do you first choose one of the patches, and then switch to stomp mode to turn those effects on and off, or have you created your own set of effects with which to stomp on and off?
I’m trying to get a handle on stomp mode to see if maybe I might like it.
Thanks
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I apologise in advance for not being called @howard.
Having that out of the way: after experimenting with it, I decided to walk the second path.
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Sorry @peterhuppertz I didn’t mean to slight you, I didn’t know you were one of the stompers. @howard was the only name that came to mind.
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I was pulling your leg.
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You need to pay closer attention. The leg you pulled was not mine, it was that of a dying giraffe.
Now that we have the comedy out of the way 
can you recommend your favorite effects?
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I am a relative noob (you’ve had yours longer than I’ve had mine), but I like the modeling effects most. Lemme check… I’m currently experimenting with
- SuperChorus
- Flanger
- Bass Detune
- Slow Attack
I dislike most every, if not every, distortion effect.
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Thanks, that’s a good start.
I’m looking forward to hearing @howard favorites too.
I’m seriously jonesing for the Zoom B3n now.
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I can see why, technically.
However, I find that the B3n enables a level of complexity that I have no need for. Even in a live situation, it is very, very unlikely that I’d use more than four effects in a single song.
I did forget one: I almost always use a compressor. Not sure what it’s called.
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I can’t help myself, I love complicated technology. I’m a victim of GAS!
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I do both, but I stomped the presets more for learning.
Now I go to empty Levels, turn it on, and just play a patch at a time.
Like I did one with each of the 4 compressors, so I could play with them side by side by side for comparison.
I dont really like the distortions either, although I can have some fun with the OctoFuzz.
I just mess around with it all the time, and have gotten enuf pedals based on what I like from the box. Have not found a great compressor pedal yet, until I just got the Zoom Multieffects stomp box yesterday for a great deal. It’s like having 4 compressors in one, and it’s rugged stomp box compression.
So I have a Zoom for the pedalboard and one for a tabletop practice / headphone amp to experiment with further
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I always built mine from scratch and I only ever used the thing in stomp mode, I did not use the preset patches much.
As for the individual effects, I would rank them from best to worst:
Compressors: all I tried were great.
Amp/Cab Sims: Tied with the compressors for #1, these are mostly awesome and are very useful.
Modulation effects: Mostly good, the choruses are great (really liked the Corona tri-chorus model), some of the others were a bit noisy (but so are the real pedals). I didn’t play with the filters enough but they seemed cool. The Octavers were good actually, IIRC.
Distortion/Overdrive: The raw fuzz effects (like the Big Muff model) are ok but the overdrives did not please me much at all. I like my real Big Muff more than the model but at least the fuzz was passable.
I didn’t do much with the synthbass or auto-wah. Not really my thing.
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Compressor, amp and cab sim take up three 
Generally I always had a compressor and amp/cab sim going. Then usually I would have a chorus and fuzz that I toggled with the footswitches. Even that simple chain made me really, really appreciate the B3n layout over the smaller Zooms. It’s just so much better to be able to tweak three sets of parameters at a time.
It’s not as good as a real pedalboard but it’s a much nicer UI than the smaller multis.
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Yes, that’s one of the reasons I got the multi effects pedal, primarily for compression, so I can tweak it at the same time as amp / Cab and chorus (one at a time on the B1four). So I am jazzed to have that pedal for sure. In fact, If I like it that much, I could see getting another if it were to pop up for sale for $40 or less.
Ther, I said it, now one will pop up for sale. A bass one, there are already guitar ones for sale. Haha
Yes, I only ever used thepresets to study, and see how they were put together, as in, what order, plus seeing how they were set up / tweaked in.
Compression, why do they have to be so noisy. That’s one thing I hate about them, But I think ai will get a better handle on it in the multi stomp then the B1four.
Also, I was thinking about a noise suppressor or Gate. I personally feel they will only be good if you can loop the chain thru it instead of it just being inline. The Boss, or the TCElectronics is what I am thinking about mostly.
There is a Boss for $60 on Offer Up. If I decide I want it, I will offer $40
Or, I have a pedal I am returning to Amazon (I think, gotta get the multi Comp first) and a
stupid Hum eliminator I tested out, so I have enuf in credit for the TCE Sentry Noise Gate in credit.
What are your thoughts on these @howard, and anybody else with knowledge or experience with these pedals, or any noise gate pedals.
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I have a noise gate on my Battalion but I never use it. It’s not a very good noise gate though.
The B1four has one built in you can use (I don’t think the MS-60B does though).
You probably want to play with the MS-60B a while before you buy a second one. It’s got three problems that prevented me from ever getting one:
- It is getting old, and uses the older (B1on/B3-era) effects models, which aren’t as good in general as the B1four/B3n
- Its bypass apparently has noticeable tone suck (the B1on did too but not enough to really bother me at the time, so this might be livable)
- Apparently its UI is clumsy in actual use (though Tonelib Zoom would help a lot with this)
On the other hand, it has the perfect form factor, so if those things don’t turn out too bad then it seems like a killer addition.
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Tone suck would be bad, but could you overcome that with a boost pedal? Sure, it’s adding more pedals, but would it in effect, help to cancel it out?
Yes, I did get this one for a specific reason, a compressor, and it is supposed to do that very well, same as the B1four.
I get it’s getting old, but some of the best pedals are original and have not changed in forever, if not ever.
If it’s clumsy, I can see that as a problem, but more so if you are trying to chain effects in it instead of useing it like a stand alone pedal.
That said, I agree @howard, I will have to get it and play with it and see if I even like it before buying more.
But still, if I were to get another at a great price, I could still flip it for a $20 profit. The add I bought it off said
“Brand new, I bought it about 6 months ago and it did not work for my set up”
I could take the $30 pedal and advertise it right and easy get $50-$60, so I always have that to fall back on. 
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You can find a great example of what to expect from a high end noise gate here.
Whether you like Glen Fricker or not, he did manage to bring a pretty nice pedal to market. If you want more examples, there are more on his channel.
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This is true. However, I do not use any cab sims, and also, I consider fuzz to be the devil incarnate for bass. I will use the compressor in most any case, but that’s about it.
I’m convinced that, beyond a certain point, the more knobs and buttons I have, the bigger the window of opportunity for me to screw up a perfectly good sound.
On top of that, if I have to choose between fidgeting with gizmos or practicing, I know which activity is going to improve the sound of me playing the bass best.
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You might want to reconsider that when recording; the bass will sound a lot less flat and more natural through the DAI with a cab sim.
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