Thanks for the explanation @howard . You are awesome!
So, if I was to get the B1 and plug it into my Rumble amp, using the overdrive and contour functions, would that be a good start for me?
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Nice break, @PeteP! Now go forth and spend!!
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I can’t answer all the rest of the question, but as a general rule I would start from the assumption that a box that does only one job will be better at that job than a box that does 10 jobs but costs less (or the same). Of course there can be exceptions to this general rule, but that’d always be my base assumption.
What I can tell you is that the B1on is a cracking headphone practice amp with scope for a variety of modelled sounds, and it’s changed how I feel when listening to myself play as it’s cut out a lot of unwanted noise from my speaker - possibly just better gain/compression (don’t assume I know anything about these technicalities), but it’s made it clear that the amp isn’t worth persevering with.
I had the chance of a Fender Rumble 40 recently but couldn’t manage the funds - the B1on has negated my need for spending on an amp for a while and provided me with some fun options into the bargain. It’s made me very happy.
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Thanks @PeteP. I think I’m going to pull the trigger on this: (Unless one of you guys talks me out of it)
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GASsing much? 
I’m sure you’ll have fun with it.
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Sorry, I’m not familiar with that term 
Yes, I ordered it. I’ll have it tomorrow.
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Gear Acquisition Syndrome.
Sorry, I thought you’d have stumbled upon it in here with so much of it going on. I’m at the low end of acting upon it, but I’m not immune to the temptation. It feels so good.
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Ah… okay. Yeah, I guess that’s what I have. It happened when I saw that video I posted in another thread, and listened to that bass player. I got sucked right into the abyss. 
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I feel ya, I don’t have any pedals, but, with everything I’ve learned from all these pedal discussions, I think you made a good choice with that B1 Four - that’s the one that will also be my first pedal at some point, I decided. And, we have an entire insider’s user’s manual from just this thread 
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the good thing with those kind of effects processors is that they’re not specialized at all, they can do more or less anything. that’s cool for an entry in the giant effects rabbit hole : you will have lots of things to try and you will be able to use this Zoom to define what you like or not. it’s pretty impossible to know without some trial and error, the Zoom allows the trials without the errors (= without spending money for a ton of different gear) 
and that’s pretty cool.
In my opinion it’s a much better choice to start with, than a much more specialized analog preamp.
and a nice nice nice bonus : those things a really great recording tools, so you will be able to record some covers to share with us 
and even when you’ll know exactly what you want and maybe when you’ll have another amp, a pedalboard etc … the Zoom will still be a nice swiss army knife. it’s a good thing to have !
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I’m nervous but excited about this.
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Me too, LOL
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I was just reading the manual, and it says that you can only record 30 seconds. That’s not very much 
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no, that’s probably about the looper function 
if you use the Zoom as a recording device (pluged into your computer) you will be able to record as long as you want ! or as long as you have space on your hard drive
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The B1four is a great pedal with lots of excellent effects to play with. You can think of it as a whole bunch of different stompboxes in one. It also has a nicer user interface than the B1on - more knobs to tweak each patch and with, and more buttons to select with.
It’s also got a good tuner and a drum machine, and as you found, a 30 second looper.
I love these little zoom boxes, they do so much.
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For the life of me, I can’t think of a reason why I would want a 30 second recording. But I do like all the other features it has. I’m sure I’ll enjoy this device.
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a looper is used this way : you record a short line (for example a very rythmic bass line, root on one, whole notes ; just a few bars, so 30 seconds are enough). then you let the recorded line play itself as a loop. then you can play over it, for example to do a solo or some noodling. it’s pretty fun when you play alone
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Okay, I can’t visualize why I would want to record myself playing for 30 seconds, and then playing over it while it plays back over and over again. Maybe I can find a YouTube that explains this concept. Thanks.
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it’s like making your own minimal backing track for a jam with yourself. just one of the 10000 functions of an effects processor
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Here are a YouTube I found that explains it. Maybe I can mess around on my six string guitar and make a backing track, I don’t know.
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