Original 68k SE for me in '88. Learned a lot of CS on NeXT cubes too, including learning Objective-C way back then, which has served me well as an iOS developer (though that’s more or less gone Swift at this point).
I have almost always owned a PC too, for games, but I could replace the entirety of Windows with just Steam and be happier.
I had the NeXTstation shortly and was paid by the Braunschweig University of Art to “play around” with a NeXT cube, to see what it can do for “the arts”. Those were the times…
I was dumbfounded by everything on this machine (except the missing floppy drive, if I remember correctly).
The visual development interface was so far ahead of it’s time (that was pre Hypercard etc.), that I had trouble understanding it (being used to hardcore C and assembler from the Microsoft and Borland compilers).
Objective C sucked though, especially compared with C++.
same - i have a 8-ish year old high end PC i “acquired” from somewhere that i use only for games on steam (some older stuff will not run on Mac steam).
i mean i get it it’s probably a preference thing. i will say the OS of both are more alike than different then back in the day. my favorite apple thing? asking them to send me my password and them saying it will be sent to my iphone. when i tell them i don’t have an iphone, they say they will send it to my android phone but it will take a few days. to punish me for not buying an iphone. 
I’ll say this. I’ve been a Sony PlayStation fan for a long time from 1-4 then I have Xbox a try. I had 2 the S and X series. Both are quite awesome but lots of give and take vs the PS.
That said I’ll be the first to preorder the Apple console if/when they’d decided to dip their toe into the console.
It’s… different. It doesn’t suck.
I love C++ and have spent most of my career in it but can appreciate what Obj-C brought to the table and it’s actually fun once you get going with it.
they do have one (kinda). it’s the ir goggles thing. that costs 3 bazillion dollars
hah. ok i’ll stop now. i don’t like apple 
For consoles there is a very good criterium to decide on buying: will it play WipeOut?
Best soundtracks ever 
Exactly!!!
I loathe Apple, but it comes from being a young network admin back in the 80s, and having to try and connect a Mac to an ethernet which was a nightmare. As far as OS. Unix has the others beat. I still have a PC for games and work.
I am the first to admit my loathing for Apple might no longer apply, but they did not play nice with others when I was in networking
MacOS has been Unix for decades now, Darwin is based on BSD/Mach. And the networking is now fine (I mean, it’s Unix.)
Can I get command line? No matter, MAC is too expensive. I concede my prejudices are out of date which is why I did not initially express an opinion.
Surely on a bass forum that should be no bar to commenting 
On bass I am the amateur of amatuers. I have no problem commenting.
On computers, I am a professional. My opinions are more reasoned.
I paid $499 for my M2 Mac when Costco had it on holidays special. It’s the best performance Mac I have and cheapest. I was also told it’d have been the best window machine if I so choose.
Same time I bought a $1400 asus laptop with intel Evo as my wife said our kids’ schools use PC so we needed one. It’s the same price as my MacBook Pro and I just don’t think it’s better. Certainly not easier to use for me.
Apple’s laptops are expensive but so damn good. I wouldn’t consider any other really, regardless of OS I chose for it, but that’s just me. The only bummer is you can’t upgrade them, which is admittedly shitty.
That said I still have a 2014 MacBook Pro that I use as a casual usage machine for travel and such to this day, still fine for daily tasks. Pretty decent i5 in it but dog slow compared to the newer machines.
part of what a lot of people hate about apple — the closed ecosystem — is part of why the machines run so well, and especially machines using apple silicon (MX chips). they also last for a long time.
Since introduction of the M processors, Apple really has the best laptops (in terms of hardware, specially performance and battery efficiency)
Shame that it runs OS-X…
