Sometimes simple is best.
Paul Barker is a fantastic bass player, in part because he knows exactly what a song needs. One note, one pattern, perfection for this song.
Sometimes simple is best.
Paul Barker is a fantastic bass player, in part because he knows exactly what a song needs. One note, one pattern, perfection for this song.
My choice would be Teacher Teacher from them. Eugene plays an amazing chord around 5:37 that really punches
I second Pantera - Walk, such a fun riff to play.
Think all bands/songs has been called out that I like.
Machine Head - Old has a fun riff too. Not as iconic as some of the others mentioned.
That list is, well, to put it mildly - debatable. I mean, it contains Grand Funk Railroad ffs.
It also contains Die Krupps (industrial/EBM, I love them), Killing Joke (post-punk/Industrial), TSOL (hardcore punk), and a bunch of other non-metal bands I love too, which is a little on the other side of the spectrum from GFR, but I do not think most people would consider them to be canonical metal bands (or even close) either. So Rush being on that list changes little.
Just having done one or two metal-adjacent songs seems like stretching the definition a bit.
For a category to be useful to describe something, it has to have some kind of meaning. Unless we want to broaden the term “metal” to be something more or less meaningless, I’m not seeing how this fits the bill:
You dislike wikipedia, fine challenge their listing then.
I offered an essay written for the the RR HOF, the for is important there, and this was disregarded as the RR HOR are asshats.
This is the background of the writer of the essay
He holds a doctorate in music and interviews all the inductees before writing the essay.
It just seems that some preconceptions are unwilling to be challenged
This has nothing to do with preconceptions. This is simply a disagreement that Rush are a canonical metal band. I love Rush, and I think they have a few songs that are metal-adjacent, and more that have some aspects of metal, but I just don’t generally see them as a typical metal band, nor do I think most people would. Same for Killing Joke, TSOL, Die Krupps, and many others on that list.
Even for a heavy metal GFR seems debatable lol. From what I understood heavy metal is more towards hard rock, especially in those years. If we are purely talking about “metal” I would look into the subsections which are listed below the wiki article: List of heavy metal bands - Wikipedia
Wtf is mathcore
See that’s an excellent example. I’ve always thought of mathcore as a type of post-rock/post-metal (growing out of post-hardcore and math rock), not as heavy metal
I think @Gio actually introduced me to it.
I think lists like that, are always just personal observations. Like the bands you already mentioned, a band like Steppenwolf is certainly not heavy metal in my book. A band like Queen could equally be called heavy metal then. Songs like Sheer Heart Attack, Stone Cold Crazy, etc are more metal than Steppenwolf ever were. But I’d never list Queen as a metal band based on a few songs. I think the style needs to be predominantly in the style of metal.
It’s for people who really enjoy counting how many polyrhythms you can incorporate into one song before the band implodes. It’s really not a genre I enjoy a lot. Many are very good musicians but after a song or two, I grow tired of trying to find the beat.
Converge is one of the few mathcore bands that I can listen to. I guess Meshuggah can be labeled a mathcore band too. Again, it’s always hard to pin one genre on a band.
The Armed is another good example from the punk side (and Ballou is involved with them).
Yeah totally, and that should not be the goal. I think of these genres like descriptive hashtags to tag bands with, not prescriptive labels to wedge them in to.
It’s definitely useful when looking up potential new bands to explore. You seem to have a good grasp on punk, Howard.
I don’t mind Rush but I work with a great guy who when Rush popped up on the job site radio said:
“Ahh Rush, only one lead singer away from being a really great band”
Sorry not Sorry to all the Rush fans but that still makes me laugh every time Rush appears on the radio (which is a lot in Canada due to Can-con laws)
I think this riff is quite fun to play!
This is a good example of Mathcore, the pros and cons. The shifting rhythms make it so hard to find the pocket for singing and dancing it has only been performed once, which is a con.
Really good bass work though
Watching it again I forgot how bad the synchronization of the dancing was which I put down to the shifting rhythms
I take Wikipedia with a grain of salt. I used to breed Clownfish, saltwater type, and they have an article on them that is full of old wives tales. I corrected the biology which you would think wouldn’t be in dispute as there are plenty of canonical reference materials.
It’s science. Nope, all the changes were rejected in deference to old wives tales.
I do take issue with many entries on this list - Stooges? Runaways? Van Halen? Mahogany Rush? Of note Babymetal is not on the list which tells me this particular list is curated by musical politics
Most of the bands are accurate, some are a stretch, some are excluded due to bias.
Edit: I will add that I’m not picking on you though - we differ on a matter of opinion - so what? But this list is a good example of the strengths and weaknesses of the Wiki model
Babymetal don’t appear on the list as they weren’t formed until nearly 30 years after the list closed