Same stuff here - I practice with headphones at home anyways so I’d love to have practice with (much) lower sound levels. Actually our drummer’s own equipment is electronic so nothing would be against silent practice. And yet there’s heavy objection.
I use in ears while the rest of the band has monitors. It’s mainly because I don’t have a wedge and they do. I bought the xvive u45 unit and it has been really good. I get my own mix. Originally bought it just for ampless for practice. It worked well enough that the band didn’t need to buy another wedge right away. The only downside to the in ears is I have to pay close attention to the song calls as I cant hear anything not mic’d and have to read lips. I’m not giving up my amp though.
For this to work, I assume that you need everyone (except drums) going into the mixing desk?
Everyone goes to the mix including drums although in my mix drums are low as im standing next to him. My transmitter plugs into the board just like monitor via an xlr or 1/4”(adapter) . So my in ear is controlled just like a wedge and I can dial in via iPad my mix that’s totally different than what’s going to the pa or others monitor. I have master volume control on my body receiver. The new one just announced at NAMM is upgraded to stereo while mine is mono.
It was a 4 way split.
I bought it all / set it up etc and then every gig I take all the band money until they’ve paid it off ![]()
It’s a big commitment if you’re not sure you’ll be around gigging together for a while.
I bought it to kind of force their hand. Now everyone loves it.
what PA speakers do you use? we have some for practice but bass seems to get pushed down when the other instruments/vocals are all going. it’s not me not cutting through it just can’t seem to produce bass along with everything else. it’s fine enough for practice but it’d be nice if i could convince the group to upgrade. fortunately we’ve only had to supply our own PA once and we were able to borrow better ones for it.
“In ears is the way.” I didn’t understand until we switched.
I think we’re running a couple of powered 12" speakers up on tripods plus a few older 10" ones.
The bass is lacking a bit so i also run my 2x12 amp / cab stack to help out.
The answer would be to buy a subwoofer but we are still paying of the digital mixer. Maybe later this year.
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/TS12Sub--alto-professional-ts12s-12-inch-powered-subwoofer
I did the same thing in ‘67-’69 with my high school band. We were a 4-piece and charged $125 per gig (high schools, fair grounds, YMCAs, that sort of thing). We split it 5 ways, $25 per member, plus $25 for band gear (mics, mics stands, mic cables and a small PA/mixer). Since everyone was broke-ass, I used my snow plowing income to buy that gear. I don’t remember if I ever got all of my money back, or not.
And I sure as hell never got my money back on my gear, all bought used (‘63 Fender Jazz, late ‘64 Fender Bassman, unknown year Farfisa Mini Compact, all of which just barely fit in my ‘64 VW Beetle gigmobile
).
Yeah so this is also exactly my issue with most older PA. The speakers in my combo amps sound so much better. Some PA’s do have an option to make the bass sound more “deep”. It’s quite interesting how there is a difference in speakers. I mean guitar amps same story.
Another option is ofc to use a decent cab IR, but it doesn’t fix the actual bass of the speaker. I reckon this is not a problem with an in-house PA system.
I don’t really have experience with the newer generation PA. I heard the Fender Tonemaster is really good for guitars at least.
I don’t think this is an issue with the powered speaker itself. Most of them have flat response and also many roll off at a lower frequency than bass combo amps.
One possibility is the PA enclosure vs the bass amp cabinet, but the cheaper bass combo amps are optimized more for weight than voicing too.
Synth bass also sounds good through them, though of course venues can have giant bass cabs/subs.
I would say try cabsim plus EQ. EQ is also the difference between the bass amp (usually not flat) and the powered PA class D amp (very flat).
Even with a newer speaker you’re asking a lot from it. Vocals, keys, guitar oh and now I’d like all those lovely low frequencies.
A separate sub is the answer imho. Maybe next month if budget allows ![]()
Yes, it boils down to the quality of the speaker and cabinet. Same goes for PA. Also an amp with an adjustable horn tweeter will sound very different if you are rocking a 1x12 or 1x15. It just costs a lot more money ![]()
Yeah, this makes most sense since you are already invested in a PA system. I can recommend the Mitsubishi Diatone D-160
Does this come in pair? I want it I need it, ![]()
do they stack?
Asking for a friend
and that’s just the tweeter.
I am disappointed that Mitsubishi doesn’t make them anymore, not that I could afford one…
…but if you don’t need something portable and money isn’t a concern, Ascendo Immersive Audio will build you a 100” sub for 1Hz to 100Hz… THE100 SUB PRO PASSIVE SEALED
Somebody was selling the bass horn out of the UA150 theater in Seattle a couple years ago. I believe he was asking 6k.
New to me pedal, courtesy of @fishmongerjoe


