I honestly don’t see where neck dive would be an issue unless you’d wear your bass as a necklace… or shoulderlace.
Very rarely both hands are off the bass… at least IMHO… so either strumming hand pressing down… or fretting hand pressing up… or simply resting the strumming hand arm on the body… might fix the “dreaded neck dive”.
I think it’s more of a problem on paper than in a real scenario.
Neck dive annoys me because it’s just tugging down whenever you let go of the neck. However it’s easy to fix by just swapping out the tuning machines so no big.
But I want my hands to be making the sounds I want, not holding up my instrument.
Blame it on classical violin training where the first thing you learn is how to hold a violin so your fretting hand isn’t supporting it so you can freely shift and finger without tension. It’s a very old habit for me.
As long as this is the case I’m ok with it, but I really get annoyed that “design our headstock to be light enough for the instrument to work optimally” isn’t a priority for some brands. I’d rather give money to the brands that make optimally functioning instruments.
Interesting, I had both in my shed for a few week, I wanted the Leland Skylar signature, my friend have both Combustion 3 and NS dimension, Dingwall is definitely more comfortable, but not for me. At the time at least,
In general, I try not to “hold up” the neck so the hand is not supporting the neck and fretting at the same time, but the art is in the counterbalanced. I have several neck bias basses but it’s in my muscle memory, I hardly ever have to consciously deal with the issue.
Supporting and fretting at the same time is like breaking and cornering at the same time, something gotta give.
I had a Spector for a while and ended up selling it because of the neck dive. It was bad enough that it made it uncomfortable for me to play it on stage.
Also if you hold your fretting had the way Josh tells us to, ie so the neck’s not actually resting on your palm, it’s actually not in a very good position to provide that support without pinching your thumb and fingers together which rather defeats the object of fretting!
Neck dive has been discussed in many threads. Players have addressed it by several means: replacing heavy tuners with lighter ones, repositioning the strap button(s) to redistribute the neck/body balance, running the strap’s body end under your belt, adding a weight to the body end of the strap, plus other more novel fixes.
Search the forum for “neck dive” for far more than you might want to know.
I’m trying to work out if you are saying that the IT/Software geeks, here in particular, are ripped gym rats, or that in general IT/Software geeks are not known for being ripped.
MIne is perfectly balanced… doesn’t dive… or at least my strap is good.
Ibanez BTB806MS
Strap is also Ibanez BWS900 Bass Workshop Strap … just wish it could be a bit longer.
I’ve been a nerd gymbro since high school. Between playing lacrosse and hockey, then the military for a decade, it’s just part of my routine. I do it now to try and age a little more gracefully.