Multi scale fretboards

Fender jazz man but have a Precision and a jackson 5 and a 74 jazz and a Geddy Lee Jazz signature.
I am curious about the multi scale fretboards on the dingwall is it hard to get used to.,seems like it would be faster and maybe troublesome on chords any way before I spend $3000 somebody give me some feed back.

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Check out the magnifying glass next to your avatar in the menu bar. You can search topics for anything you’re interested in. The forum’s been operating for years, and there are tons of threads and posts on just about everything bass.

Here’s a thread that might have some insights on your question:

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After like 30 seconds, you don’t even notice it!

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Well, in the nutshell no it does not take anytime to get used to. But, but if you are a line fretting kind of guy it would take a few more minutes to recalibrate.

Not all are equal when it comes to build quality Dingwall is somewhere in the middle but some like the Ibanez are not as fun to use. When you are fretting, say C on the B string or F on the A string your index finger is rubbing the slanted bridge, if it’s not smooth or even tapered it can be very annoying.

This is the Ibanez. The nut is a straight cut like standard nut but it doesn’t work.

This is my custom Short scale MultiScale Lignum the nut is smooth and tapered laying the finger across it offers very smooth feel.

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Surely you have a Dingwall in your vast collection, @Al1885?

@Tkattt, I have two Dingwalls and hop between them and ā€˜normal’ 34ā€ scale length with ease. Even switching from a Dingwall to a short scale isn’t an issue. One thing to note though, I don’t play chords, so can’t comment on that part of your question.

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Not in the shed. I had 3 different model of Dingwall in my shed for a few months stint but I didn’t like them at the time. At the time what was available were maple neck / fingerboard only. It’s not something I was looking for.

I’m still looking forward to the Super P.

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You mean ā€œF on the E stringā€? :wink:

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That’s what I said no? :rofl:

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Playing an F at the eighth fret of the A string and having to rub your finger against the nut would mean having a freakishly large nut!

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:joy:

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:rofl:

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I’m currius if basses would even have the issue that caused the M450VCG piano to be built would even apply to a bass since we have such a short range and can scale on string thickness instead of string leght

(I love the M450VCG as a sample since it’s concistant across all keys)

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They do in terms of timbre. Short scale tension can be improved with string thickness, but the timbre remains duller as the longer string allows for more higher harmonics.

You see the same effect on a full scale B string on 5-string 34" basses; they generally only sound great (to me anyway) in the first few frets and become quite dull sounding above the 5th-7th.

Multiscale improves that.

There is the Octobass :slight_smile:

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Wouldn’t E0 be like 21hz :thinking:

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yes. There’s a reason the piano keyboard starts at A0 (27Hz) :slight_smile:

Some people have a hard time with even its fundamental.

Still, an E0 string is fine - much of what you hear with bass is harmonics above the fundamental, even with bass guitars, with the fundamental filling out the tone and adding body even if you cannot fully hear it. Many amps and cabs (including all popular combos I am aware of) start rolling off around 45-60Hz and many are already at like -10dB for E1, much less B1 on a 5er.

You can google the frequency response charts pretty easily. make sure to search for the miked response, not the effects send response. You want to factor in the cab as that’s a major contributor, especially for the inexpensive combos which often have lower end speakers.

I really like this guys, for the Rumble 100 - it clearly shows both the characteristic Fender mids scoop and also the thing rolling off hard right around A1.

blog link:

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So a multi-scale would be okay for a beginner? I have an opportunity to pick up one at a good price…

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Absolutely as the matter of fact it benefits beginners more at the beginning.

If you are a golfer, this will fall on super game improvement closed cavity back iron, :joy:

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However impractical it may be, I think that lower octave sounds and feels wonderful.

After seeing @Al1885 get some some cool stuff from Lignum, I picked up one of their sub-octave basses (i.e. the purple one in the middle of this pic Show Us Your Basses (Part 2) - #4242 by JamesPittman , tuned 1 octave down from E-standard). I use a PA instead of a normal amp, so I can retain more of the sub-40Hz stuff in my practice room.

Despite the longer scale length, the multi scale layout of the Lignum was easier to adjust to than I thought it would be. So much so, that I eventually picked up a multi scale Spector (i.e. the red one in the picture, tuned BEAD).

Additionally, I have found that after a few weeks the switching between the multi scale and normal scale basses no longer takes any mental effort. Fretless, while also taking time to get accustomed to, feels like a different mind set (because of glissandi, etc.) and not something I would expect to be the same type of mindless shift as multiscale to normal scale.

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Yes!

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