Thank you @Mike_NL and @Paul
As I have a permanent practice space now I’m considering dragging my pedals out of storage
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+1. They picked the name SansAmp for a reason. Think of it as an amp replacement. Same for any other tone-coloring preamp/DI.
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I’ve been contemplating getting into the world of pedals. I was thinking about an overdrive being my 1st pedal (besides a tuner), but there are so many! 
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It does, including a tuner, but it’s not as easy to use as the Donner I bought would be, and that’s the problem…where to put the GT-1B in the chain.
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I’ll give this a try. The tuner comes in today and the chorus comes in tomorrow. I have to work my off day on Saturday so I’ll be able to bring the pedals and the Mikro to work (I’d bring the Thunderbird but it’s big and heavy :)). One thing I did read about the GT-1B is that it has a looper.
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My preamps are before my reverbs and delays, mostly cause all have some sort of distortion circuit. End of chain is perfect too. Your Boss can go on end or middle.
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Depending on the sound you want, may I suggest the Pork & Pickle? Sounds gnarly without sacrificing a clean sound. It does a lot, really, and still sounds uh… sharp? I dunno, but there’s fuzz and there’s clean fuzz and this is the latter. Here’s a demo:
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not a studip question at all.
I would consider the Sansamp as a pure preamp, and ignore its pedal form factor. So you could consider it like the preamp of an amp with separate preamp and power amp, exactly what an effect loop does. So, before the Sansamp you would put eveything you’ll put before the amp, and the other pedals would go into the “effect loop” (so, between the Sansamp and the power amp , so after the sansamp).
in the diagram that @John_E showed, it would be logical to put the Sansamp between the yellow and the purple block.
but again, pedal order theory is not hard science … one can always prefer a different order !
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So, what would the GT do for you?? Use it for distortion and fuzz?? That is a bit overkill for the GT. Since you already have outsourced tuner, compressor, EQ and chorus, might as well get rid of the GT and get a dedicated distortion/overdrive/fuzz pedal… Or a pre-amp pedal that can give you some dirt as well… 
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I guess this is also the best way to completely go around your power amp’s own internal pre-amp stage, right (I guess this is what you just said?)? But, will you not always get a blend of “clean” (via the effects loop) and “colored” (via the pre-amp stage) sound in that way??
This remains an endless source of some confusion for me
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The effects loop in an amp is just a preamp out and a power amp in. If you go from say, the output of a sansamp into the effects loop in, you’re bypassing the amp’s built-in preamp and connecting directly to the power amp stage. At this point you are only using your amp as a power amp to amplify the volume.
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Ah, yes, of course, thanks!
So, you are NOT just plugging the SansAmp in the effects loop, but you also need to plug the bass into the SansAmp (and not your main rig).
I get confused because I have all my pedals (no dirt) in the effects loop, but still plug my bass into the main rig’s input (i.e., its pre-amp stage).
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Back in the 90s, the Boss Metal Zone got a bad rap partly because people were plugging it into the front of their amps. But if you use it as a preamp and plug it into the effects loop, that’s where it lives best.
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What I like about the GT-1B is the effects it has, not necessarily anything else. I’d also end up having to buy a distortion and overdrive pedals.
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not exactly what I was saying, but yes, you can bypass the internal preamp by pluging the pedalboad (which includes its own preamp, say a Sansamp) into the Return of the effect loop. This means that you create a “new” effect loop between the Sansamp and the power amp.
what I said is more about understanding that you have a preamp and a power amp, separated by an effect loop, and you can consider your full signal chain around the preamp you’re using. thinking about the signal chain, it’s the same thing if you have a Sansamp in your pedalboard, or if you use your internal preamp with a 4-cable method (some effects before the Input, others between the Send and the Return).
I tried to figure how to consider a preamp into a full signal chain, and by this way understand how you decide where a Sansamp could be placed in a pedalboard.
Not sure I’ve been very clear.
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+1 I was going to say the same.
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Yeah actually putting delay and reverb dead last is always a good option too.
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for guitar, I even put the reverb after the cab sim. studio approach somewhat.
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As a plugin I put it after everything. Well after the amp/cabsim.
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yeah I was talking about my TC Hall Of Fame 2 pedal, but also when I use a reverb plugin (which is rare, but can happen) it’s after everything too
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