What's the deal with effects and pedals? (Also: sound in general)

like, who would want that

even live, it means to turn up your own monitor you need to mess with the sound engineer on the mixing board :slight_smile:

It makes no sense at all.

A pre/post switch for the DI would fix that yeah - but itā€™s still dumb. Especially putting the volume before the EQ (which can mess with, you know, volume :slight_smile: )

3 Likes

the Caline CP-60 ā€œWine Cellarā€ is also the same cicuit - a SansAmp BDDI clone. probably even more durable than the BDI-21 as the box is made out of metal.

also I just discovered this DI with a level knob.

3 Likes

Metal AND it looks nicer :slight_smile:

1 Like

Yeah, I like the look of that much better, but the BDI 21 is built like a tank also.
I donā€™t need another, or I would get it.

Looks like a winner for @PamPurrs tho

1 Like

there you go. Supposed to be the same thing as the SansAmp and the Behringer BDI-21, and only $6 more then the Behringer Lists for.

2 Likes

That will add some great amp-like tone for you as well @PamPurrs, better than your amp does.

2 Likes

Someone living quite close to me offered a used BDI-21 for only ā‚¬ 10. Was tempted by it, even though I donā€™t really need it. Anyway, looks like someone already beat me to it, so it doesnā€™t matter anymore. Probably a real bargain!

3 Likes

even at its full price the BDI-21 is a real bargain.

2 Likes

It really is. That caline sounds exactly like it too, for very little more.

2 Likes

Isnā€™t that quite similar to the TS9B Tube Screamer that I already have?

In fact, couldnā€™t I solve this by using the ā€œLevelā€ knob on the TS instead of increasing the Master Volume on the amp?

2 Likes

No. It does have an overdrive, but it is more than just an overdrive. You can think of it as a little amp simulator with EQ, and a DI out as well as a line out.

The Tube Screamer is just an overdrive. With nice tone too, but still - basically it does what one knob on the caline does.

The best tone-adding knob on the caline is the harmonics knob, called ā€œpresenceā€ on the other BDDI clones.

2 Likes

So, do you guys recommend I order the Caline one then?

1 Like

It would be a good inexpensive thing to try to get a DI with nice tonal properties when you want them.

If it is as good as the BDI-21 I wouldnā€™t hesitate at all. The reviews and vids I have seen make it look pretty much the same, in a nicer enclosure.

2 Likes

And if you can find a BDI-21, buy it too and keep it as a spare :slight_smile:

My endorsement of the BDI-21 would be that if I had a SansAmp BDDI, I would sell it, buy a BDI-21, and be just as happy and more than $100 richer. If the Caline is as good, itā€™s a no-brainer at that price.

1 Like

Ordered

1 Like

Cool. This will let you record and still run your amp at lower levels. And give you some nice tone to play with.

2 Likes

so basically, I connect the bass to this device, and this device goes directly into the DAI? Or this device to the amp? (confused)

(My pedal board goes through the effects loop)

What I would do:

Completely disconnect your amp from the DAI.

Take your effects out of the effects loop. You donā€™t need the effects loop any more.

Make the Caline the last pedal in your pedal chain. Plug your bass into the first pedal in your pedal chain.

Run the DI out on the Caline to the DAI, and run the normal out on the Caline to your amp.

Now you still have all of your effects recordable, and the amp level has nothing to do with the recording level.

4 Likes

But that would basically turn my amp head and cab into a pile of bricks???

1 Like

No, it turns them into an amp. Why do you think they would be a pile of bricks?

2 Likes