Huh I thought the amp and cab sims were limited to bass or guitar. I know that clean works for both.
So effects arenāt the same with the two flavors of Waza Air products, and the Air-Bass has rhythm sounds the Air doesnāt.
They customized the two with different features.
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I had a pair of Roland DS-90, it was one of the original cab sims. Itās really a hit or miss Iām just not a big fan of cab sims. I have no doubt they sound just like the real thing but if I want a Vox amp Iād get a Vox amp, same goes with other brands.
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Yeah the whole point of them is to avoid the need for amps. Though amp+cabsim does sound better to me than miked amps do as well. For recording thereās no question how I would go, just way more versatile with the sims. The technology is mature at this point, they sound awesome.
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+1 to this. It also prevents a house full of different amps and cabs. Finding a good cab sim is a bit more work.
That being said it doesnāt replace the experience of standing in front of a SVT stack at full volume. The rumble is real.
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I have finally succumbed to the GAS urges and ordered a pair of the Waza-Air headphones. Should arrive tomorrow!!!
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Congrats! If you have any questions about 'em, shout out.
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Great choice @vince.suttle ,
I love mineā:+1:
Cheers Brian
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The more I use mine the more I realize any of my basses actually sound better through these than my amps!
Most likely because my room is less than ideal from an acoustic standpoint.
Also, with no cable, comes no hum/hiss/noise from any bass that might have a little due to single coil, etc.
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Amp and cab sims sound better than real amps IMO, and have for a while now 
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So what youāre saying, is that to listen to your covers I should buy one? 
You are full of great ideas
I have a similar experience. Listening on headphones using my Helix is more rich than through my Rumble 100. Not better, just different.
I normally practice on headphones so playing through my Rumble yesterday took a small mental adjustment. Then it was fine.
Until I had to turn it down as my better half had a zoom work call 
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This is true because you are up close and intimate with the sound. The problems come when you go to real amp and they donāt sound as intimate with wasted sound waves from the amp to your ears.
Although I must say the WAZA air do sound more realistic than using the regular close ear headphones or iems.
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Hello!
Iād like to ask fellow bassists if their Standby mode on Waza worksā¦
Iām unable to use Waza transmitter in my pedal board an I need to unplug it when not used to prevent battery drain. But exactly for this purpose there is a Standby mode. But it doesnāt workā¦
There are two modes in the app for Standby: Motion Sensing and Sound Sensing . These should save you from uplugging the transmitter everytime you put down your bass. And it really works well on Motion Sensing. Transmitter green LED turns OFF and it conserves the battery.
Iām able to switch the StandBy setting to āMotion Sensingā by connecting the transmitter to the headphones. This seems to be working ok.
But if I switch the StandBy setting to āSound Sensingā transmitter stays ON (lit green). It never turns itself off into StandBy.
To test it Iāve tried to insert it into my guitar, my roland tr-6s or even my zoom recorder. It never turns off when set to āSound Sensingā.
Iāve waited for about 18 hours and it still hasnāt switched to StandBy mode.
Iāve got two WL-T receivers. First one I received together with Waza Air Bass Headphones and the other one Iāve bought together with Boss WL-50. Both of them behaves the same way as I described. Sound sensing doesnāt seem to work at all. It just stays ON until battery drains.
Relevant part from the manual
Iām using latest firmware on Boss Waza Air.
Iām using latest app on Apple iOS.
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Havenāt used it, but if itās not working as described, Iād contact Boss for a replacement.
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Iāve already discussed it with the Roland support which took weeks and they werenāt able to explain why it doesnāt work or even if it should work. Communication with them is circuitous, because they act as middlemen to actual Boss experts. But they kind of admitted that there is a problem and I can return it under warranty.
So thatās what I didā¦ Iāve returned it under warranty to a retailer and got money back. Not because they accepted this claim, but because they werenāt able to solve the issue in 30 days (thatās EU warranty claim rule).
Iāve now got a new pair of headphones but to my displeasure with the new pair there is still the same problem.
So I figured out that I need to gather more input.
Itād be great if anyone could provide a feedback if the Standby works as expected and if they are happy with it.
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Ahh! Thatās a great question. If you are in SoCal youāll have an easier time since Roland US is in SoCal and they are pretty good at answering and/or solving problems in person. I had a small issue with my TD 17 KVX function and decided to go in person I was pleased with the service.
If Iām not busy to my eyeballs with the new restaurant, Iād go down there with my Waza Air and ask them myself. My unit would have an occasional glitches itās not too often but enough to be annoying every time it cuts off and reconnects.
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Thanks for reply!
That would be really wonderful, because Iām really struggling with this issue for months and Iām running out of options 
Maybe once you have some spare time
Iāve got signal cut offs also, and it looks like itās random (some evening itās really 6x per hour, very annoying). Probably at the same rate with the old unit and the new one, comparably. I know that some users report very stable connection without interruptions, so I guess the cause is the busy 2.4Ghz frequency at my spot.
What bugs me is that each time it cuts off I need power cycle the headphones.
Btw Iāve tried to run WT-50 from my guitar to pedal board and WAZA Air from pedal board to my headphones (so basically two Boss wireless) at the same time and it was unusable. It probably is not able to choose independent frequencies automatically at all.
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Hereās how they see it, Waza Air is a stand alone personal unit and they give you plenty of effect that you donāt need anything else plus a little cut off here and there wonāt bother anyone else but you, lol.
In reality, and they should know this already as they are pretty much the bench mark of Pedals, we like different things and once we lock on to some tones we want it everywhere we play.
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The fix for this is to close all other apps.
It seems when certain other apps go to do something in the background, get/give a notification, etc it can cut off the waza. No issues once I figured this out.
I actually also set up a focus for practice that cuts off texts emails etc and all calls except for close family. Keeps me from being distracted too but canāt hurt the connection.
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