Thanks @JerryP Jerome! Always appreciate your feedback!
Great Job @Lanny Lanny!
I put this on my Sonos to listen to and got a text and forgot I was listening to your cover and was wondering why I put on Dire Straits!
Very nicely played Bill @Lanny ,
Cool bass line, fitted nicely in the mixā:+1:
Can tell you really enjoyed playing that oneš
Cheers Brian
Thanks @TNKA36 Brianā¦ Itās one of those songs where the changeups are pretty much the rhythmic bass line, and with minimal note fills, more attention can be focused toward style and technique which helps highlight and showcase the lead guitarists riffā¦. I play it kinda different every time I play it, and use the song quite a bit as a warm up toolā¦
Thanks @Jazzbass19 Joeā¦. One of my favorites too since Iām a huge fan of Knopflerās guitar playingā¦. I tried many times to play that ending guitar riff when I was young and played guitar - never could get it quite rightā¦. Definitely a fun song to play bass to thoughā¦
Good timing with those ācoming in out of the rainā lyrics, too!
Cheers
Joe
You win the prize @Jazzbass19 Joe!!
I was wondering if anyone would pick up on my reasoning for doing this cover songā¦.. For some reason it doesnāt surprise me that you didā:+1:
Great bass line @Lanny . Iād forgotten how good that song is and your bass line fits like a glove
Thanks @Macā¦ Quite a bit different from the last Dire Straits song I did a year agoā¦. Now that I look back on that one I should probably redo it since I definitely had the wrong tone, and my mix was a bit too bass heavyā¦
Itās always good for a person to go back and listen to what you did a year ago so that you can see just how much youāve progressed over the past yearā¦.
@John_E thanks for the great advice, sorry took so long to reply, this and Pamās reply below sent me off on a further journey into finding out out how to do all this stuff! Quite the learning curve indeed. Iām a bit closerā¦
@PamPurrs
*Most songs can be purchased from Amazon for $1.29 some are even less. I strip out the bass with a program called RX9 by Izotope. *
For grabbing music videos from YouTube, which I sometimes incorporate into my videos, I just use screengrab software. The best Iāve found is the one by Movavi.
Big thanks again Pam - and sorry for the delay in replying. Your advice sent me off down a rabbit hole trying to get everything together!
That, and when I come back to this thread, thereās always so much interesting info and covers I get distracted (in a nice way) - and so many posts it can take me a while to find my last one! (just spent an hour watching many of the covers here)
So - I have now purchased a song. I have Ableton and Audacity, tried to remove and/or suppress the bass with both. Ableton more advanced, Audacity easier to learn (Iām still a total noob to all this). Issue now is (1) volume of reduced bass track is lower, I think I can boost that but havenāt found out how to do it yet (2) the bass has almost gone, so so has the bass/kick drum! I guess the frequencies are almost the same, both being low end.
I have worked out how to record myself playing using Ableton and the Zoom U-44 you recommended (Ableton came as a free download with the U-44 so I thought may as well use and learn that!)
I have filmed myself playing along to the song, took a lot of experimenting and finding out out how to to use my camera properly with all the settings and 4K video!
Now I just need to get some software so I can capture the official music video that goes with the song.
So with music video, video of me playing, my recorded bass track, all I need is the original song with a removed or reduced bass, and I can fit them all together.
Thatās my final hurdle now, how to reduce the bass without killing all the bass drum. How have you got around that one in your recordings when you stripped out the bass guitar?
Many thanks again - this is becoming a bit obsessive for me, need to get at least one song finished! As a noob, that will feel like an achievement - even itās far from perfect.
RX9 is very good at removing the bass without meddling with the drums.
Moises and Transcribe+ Are also great for this.
Iāve tried a lot of different things to remove bass lines, and the only sure way to do this is to actually find a copy of the actual sound recording that has a removable bass track - something Iāve not been able to findā¦ā¦ so, working with an equalizer to limit the main bass frequencies, is the only other way that I know of that ālimitsā specific bass frequencies. This said, it will also limit cross over frequencies of other instruments that cross over into that frequency.
Lowering the frequencies between 80-110Hz (depending), and allowing the frequency wave to gradually build back up to about 50-140Hz (both sides of the wave), will still keep in most all of the other cross over frequencies so that you donāt loose any of the midrange frequencies developed by other instruments yet still limit āmostā of the original bass lineā¦.
There are many upper bass frequencies that cannot be removed, but by doing this, those left over bass frequencies sort of take on a new sound in that they are in a higher register making them sound more like a guitar instead of a bass. If youāre recording a cover, those notes may or may not end up in the recording depending on how you play your bass line. If you hot your bass notes exactly as the recorded version, you wonāt hear the sounds left behind that sound like a guitar. If you use your own bass line, then those tones just sound like guitar notesā¦
Thing is, if you remove too much in order to get āallā of the bass notes and frequencies out of a song, itās gonna sound like listening to an AM radio channel out of the dashboard speaker mounted in a 1957 Chevy Belair.
Oh, As far as apps, I stick with Transcribe! to do some of the work, bit I also use the equalizer built into my DAW (GarageBand) to handle mostā¦
I guess about the best thing to do is to play with a few apps, tools, or whatever to get the sound that puts a smile on āYourā face and makes you happy!!. Youāll know when itās rightā¦
Keep on Thumpinā!
Lanny
I just recorded a version of Deck the halls - let me know what you think - been away from the forum for a while - have some catching up to do.
I got a book for piano and sax, to help me set up some duets with my son - Jr in high school who plays alto sax. I used the bass clef piano line and also added some bass solo melody into the arrangement. I have a scarlet 2/2 and a beat buddy, so I picked out a decent beat, added in the drum fills and set that up as one track. Put down the bass line, and then had my son add the sax in with a mic that I have - usually used for my bass lessons over zoom. I recorded with garageband and decided do use a fuzz effect on the bass
Nice. Love a family affair.
Would you mind repost this to the link below? We have a specific Christmas thread this year.
You said it! Thatās nice playing. That bass got some great tone.