Post your pedal ideas

Do the IR curves for PA speakers exist? What I don’t know about this subject is everything so I have all kinds of (maybe dumb) questions.

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I was actually going to ask this too, until I realized I have no idea what this means :grin:

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I haven’t looked, but you can definitely make your own.

https://www.sweetwater.com/sweetcare/articles/how-to-create-guitar-amp-impulse-responses/

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This is an interesting one because PA speakers are supposed to be fully transparent for good reason. In other words, flat across the range and what the marketing folks now call FRFR.

The usual strategy is to pick the amp and cab sim of an amp/cab setup you like and use it through the flat response PA’s to sound better.

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The only time this gets close is a high end powered speaker with built-in DSP set from the factory. Speaker driver manufacturing has production tolerance weave around the spec. Just like less expensive basses, the result can be hit or miss. Higher end powered speakers have higher tolerances to start with and some will sweep every speaker in an anechoic chamber and use it to set the DSP for that exact unit.

In large scale PA, the system engineer has already applied EQ or the inverse IR to flatten it out. Using a cab sim there will work fine if the PA has big enough subs. QSC, for example, has template inverse-IR files for all their speakers that you can load into their Q-sys DSP in the equipment rack. Most people start there and then EQ only for room issues.

I’m not sure how flat it is out of the box, but if you could measure something like the new EV Everse12 and put the correction curve in you can dim pedal, it would be as good as those physical components could get.

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Oh yes, they all do have defects (and subsequent correction needed). I’m just saying that’s the goal, and so the mental model I have always used is - the PA’s are meant to be effectively flat, and any sound I want to get out should be applied by me.

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This is one of the reasons I like the Bergantino system so much. They have the correction to flatten out their cabs built into their amp. They should be able to take cab sims pretty well.

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I heard the new FRFR cabs from Fender are quite good too for taking amp/cab sims.

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/TMFR12--fender-tone-master-fr-12-1000-watt-1-by-12-inch-powered-guitar-cabinet

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They better be :slight_smile:

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Just got this in a trade, let the fun begin

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I’ve been trying to figure out what to do with the board above and let me know if this makes sense.

Tuner- Probably StroboStomp mini

Wah- jct95 cause I’m a sucker and a tool fanboy

Compressor- leaning towards an empress

Chorus- Walrus

Octive- MTX

Preamp- Sansamp or b7k

Octive-

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I mean, how could it not be good? you’ve picked some heavy hitters there. you could, of course, also go multi effects and it would most likely actually be cheaper. it all depends on your preference.

Yeah that’s another option I’ve been thinking about but somehow it doesn’t seem as fun to put together. I could also switch in a zoom stompbox or 2

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I personally have a hx stomp to do all the heavy lifting and a sprinkling of boutique pedals that I just like the sound of. not saying that you should do this, just throwing options out there.

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:100: - please take the below comments and questions as my own take based on styles I like, with those choices you will have a top notch board no question.

Ooh fantastic choice! Never owned one but people love them.

I like the Julia and the Julianna looks interesting but TBH they are not my favorite choruses. I almost never want the vibrato end of the effect and that’s kind of their secret sauce. What makes you want them over one of the less expensive but arguably better (in terms of “more chorus-like”) effects? I think the EHX Bass Clone (and really the whole Clone Theory line) sounds better as a chorus, but YMMV.

Do you mean the MXR? TBH this is another area where I would have chosen differently, but that’s because I really loved the OC-2 circuit clones a lot for their raw funky glitchiness, poor tracking leading to cool effects, and synthy vibe.

These are very very different sounding preamps :slight_smile:

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I think Im changing it up a bit after some intense rabbit hole reading. Same tuner and compressor but take out the chorus and octive and get a hx one. I don’t think I’m the kinda guy that needs a whole bunch of tones at once and the hx one seems perfect for me.

For the preamp I’m going to hold off and see what the reviews are like for the tech 21 xb. Its going to be spendy and I have a ampeg scr thats works for what I need right now

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For what it’s worth, a drum machine / drum pedal or something in that realm to work on your poor timing beats everything on that list.

As beginners we have timing that needs development and timing is waaaaaay more important than tone IMHO

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Cool. Also don’t sleep on the Tech21 VT Bass DI - it was actually my favorite solid state bass preamp in the end. I do love the Darkglass VMT too though.

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I’ve got a bunch of drum apps on my tablet or does a dedicated drum pedal make a big difference?

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I will actually disagree with @Barney a little bit here but only if your eventual goal is making original music. In that case I would not recommend a drum solution on your pedalboard; you will want an actual separate instrument (hardware or virtual) drum machine outside of your bass signal chain. But just for practice, by all means throw one on the board.

Everything @Barney said about practicing to drums is spot on - much better than a metronome IMO.

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